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Hi, my name is Motzart! PIP and NI contributions

Motzart
Motzart Community member Posts: 7 Listener
edited January 21 in Benefits and financial support
Hi all, I am on PIP  and I have just found out that it did not pay my N I contributions which will reduce my state pension.  I was refused ESA . I cannot afford to make up the deficit of over £2,000. Has anyone else been in this situation?
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,593 Disability Gamechanger
    Disability benefits such as PIP/DLA have never given NI credits. Have you checked entitled to Universal Credit? If you live with a partner you claim as a couple. If you have savings capital of more than £16,000 then you're excluded from claiming. You will receive class 3 credits from claiming UC. Use a benefits calculator to check entitlement. https://www.entitledto.co.uk/benefits-calculator/Intro/Home?cid=4fff9bdc-52fe-43fb-b5d4-b09f7b0b6862

    When do you reach state pension age and how many more years NI contributions do you need?


    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Community member Posts: 7 Listener
    Hi thanks so much for replying. I will be pension age in June. Im/we are not entitled to UC. Its the 4years since I left work 2017 to 2021. 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,593 Disability Gamechanger
    Have you had a state pension forecast? You may not need those years. Check here. https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Community member Posts: 7 Listener
    Hi Poppy I lose about £20 a week. I was a Civil Sevant and our pension is smaller as they paid less N I contributions for us. My COPE ESTMATE IS £54 a week if I had not been contracted out. Doubt theres not much I can do about it.
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  • ShirleyW
    ShirleyW Community member Posts: 355 Pioneering
    Motzart said:
    Hi Poppy I lose about £20 a week. I was a Civil Sevant and our pension is smaller as they paid less N I contributions for us. My COPE ESTMATE IS £54 a week if I had not been contracted out. Doubt theres not much I can do about it.
    There is a very good forum about Pensions and Cope and NI on MoneySavingExpert.  There are some very knowledgeable people on there.  If you post the details of your State Pension Forecast and ask for help.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/pensions-annuities-retirement-planning
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Community member Posts: 7 Listener
    Thanks so much Shirley will do. You are a great bunch of helpful people.😊
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  • Hannah_Scope
    Hannah_Scope Posts: 5,879 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello @Motzart

    I see you've had help already :) I just wanted you to know, I popped your post into our Benefits and Financial Support section. Incase there were any other queries you had. 
    Hannah - She / Her

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  • Motzart
    Motzart Community member Posts: 7 Listener
    Thanks sooo much Hannah, really kind and thoughtful of you.🤗
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 21
    Motzart said:
    Hi Poppy I lose about £20 a week. I was a Civil Sevant and our pension is smaller as they paid less N I contributions for us. My COPE ESTMATE IS £54 a week if I had not been contracted out. Doubt theres not much I can do about it.
    The COPE is only relevant to the calculation of your ‘starting amount’ as at April 2016 when the new State Pension was introduced.
    https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension/how-its-calculated

    Unfortunately you should probably have challenged the decision to refuse ESA (I assume that you claimed immediately after stopping work but you were found to be Fit for Work).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Community member Posts: 7 Listener
    Hi thank for your reply. I left work in March 2016. I had jobseekers for 2 sessions after that and then tried to claim ESA. I mistakenly filled in the form for income based instead of contribution based (it might be the othervway round). So I got a letter to say I wasnt entitled. Then I learnt if you claim ESA within 2 years of leaving work you can get it. I was over 2 years then but rang up to say I had filled in the wrong details and could I claim it now. as I wasnt aware of this
    The assistant was so rude. He said I would have been told the right way to claim and laughed and said to forget about it. He was so rude I told him if I had spoken to people  that way when I was a C S my boss would have had a word with me. I just let it go and then ESA was done away with and replaced by Universal credit for new claiments.  I got very ill with rhuemstoid arthritis, and osteo  late 2017. Sorry this is a bit waffley. Hope it makes sense. Thanks.

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  • L_Volunteer
    L_Volunteer Community Volunteer Adviser, Scope Member Posts: 7,979 Disability Gamechanger
    It sounds like an insightful rollercoaster for you @Motzart. How are you feeling about everything at the moment?
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Community member Posts: 7 Listener
    Hi thank you. Yes I do feel a tad annoyed that I didnt pursue the ESA but the guy was so rude it put me off so I will loose out on my state pension. I just wanted to see if I could do anything about it. It has annoyed me but I have dealt with a lot worse so I will settle to it after being annoyed for a while. Thank you so much for asking  me it is very kind of you.😊

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