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How would my partner moving in impact our benefits?

smudge9000
smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
edited January 22 in Benefits and financial support
Hi there 
Could anyone advise me please? I am on income based ESA, support group and live on my own. I also get Housing benefit. I have been advised to put in for pip because of my disabilities 

My partner is not working and has not claimed anything as we are planning for him to move in with me and hopefully he could claim Carers allowance in the future. ( If my pip is successful) My question is can he move in and become part of my ESA claim. Am I able to report a change of circumstances with ESA and Housing benefit without triggering a change to UC? Thank you if anyone knows the answer to this.  
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,590 Disability Gamechanger
    You were given a lot of advice regarding this on your other thread here. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/101214/advice-what-will-happen-if-i-move-in-with-my-partner#latest

    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Yes but I'm just wondering if it will trigger uc before I do anything 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,590 Disability Gamechanger
    As i advised in your other thread it will not trigger a claim for UC. Please have another read of that thread. However, if your partner is intending to work in the future then a claim for UC would be more beneficial. All of that was advised in that thread.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Okay I am going to put in for pip which I've been advised too do if he can go on my claim then that's fine was just making sure before we do anything 🙂 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,590 Disability Gamechanger
    You should still use a benefits calculator as advised because you may well be better off claiming UC. Also as you're the main claimant of your ESA your partner will not receive any NI credits towards their state pension. If you claim UC then they will receive class 3, like yourself.

    If in the future you're awarded daily living PIP and they claim carers allowance they will receive class 1 NI credits. However, if they start working then the maximum earnings limit for carers allowance is £132/week (this will be increased from April this year)
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Can he work part-time and I still claim esa aswell as he does do alot for me as I don't go out he is willing to work part time and is looking for a job
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,590 Disability Gamechanger
    edited January 21
    Again, all this was advised on your other thread. If your partner works then earnings of up to £20 per week will be ignored. Anything more than this will reduce your Income Related ESA £1 for £1. For this reason if your partner is planning on working then it's better to claim UC.

    Please have another read of that thread linked above and it should answer all the questions you have.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • Cher_Alumni
    Cher_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,741 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @smudge9000

    It's a confusing one to get your head around isn't it? So I fully grasp you asking questions to make sure you've got it clear. I hope Poppy's responses on both threads have helped you better understand and you know where we are should you need us in the future.

    BTW - I've amended the title of your thread and moved it to our Benefits and financial support category to help make it more visible.

    All the best to you and your partner for the future :)
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    @Cher_Scope sort of got my head round it with my partner not claiming or working at min just wondering what they will say 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,590 Disability Gamechanger
    They won't say anything, once your partner moves in with you then you will need to report the changes and then your claim will be reassesed to take into consideration your partner.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Great thank you spoke to citizens advice this morning and they said he will be able to go on my claim and it will not trigger a move too uc 😊
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  • Hannah_Scope
    Hannah_Scope Posts: 5,879 Disability Gamechanger
    That's great news @smudge9000 One less thing to take care of with him moving in!

    How many boxes are ready to unpack?  :D
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  • calcotti
    calcotti Community member Posts: 10,011 Disability Gamechanger
    smudge9000 said:
    Great thank you spoke to citizens advice this morning and they said he will be able to go on my claim and it will not trigger a move too uc 😊
    However please note the advice previously given that if your partner intends to work you will (almost certainly) be better off on UC.
    poppy123456 said:
    Again, all this was advised on your other thread. If your partner works then earnings of up to £20 per week will be ignored. Anything more than this will reduce your Income Related ESA £1 for £1. For this reason if your partner is planning on working then it's better to claim UC.

    Please have another read of that thread linked above and it should answer all the questions you have.

    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Yes I know this  i anlooking at putting in for pip just one step at a time once he is on my claim we can go from there 

    @Hannah_Scope alot of boxes but will be in stages lol not all at once has loads of stuff 😅 
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  • Hannah_Scope
    Hannah_Scope Posts: 5,879 Disability Gamechanger
    Haha! I always find it's a great chance to have a clear out at the same time, but it is time consuming! 

    My friend moved just before Christmas and she's still emptying boxes  :D
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Hi I moved in with my partner he added me to esa claim to claim as a couple 

    I have found a job it's 10hours a week will this affect our esa claim 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,590 Disability Gamechanger
    edited February 23
    As your partner is the main claimant of the ESA claim then there will be a £20/week disregard for any earnings you receive. After that the ESA will be reduced £1 for £1.
    If part of the ESA is contributions based (£117.60/week) this wont be affected.
    Your partner needs to contact ESA and report the changes.
    This is where it would be better for you to claim Universal Credit, as previously advised on your other thread.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Okay I was reading something before and it says I can work no longer than 16 hours a week but will have to fill in permitted for work form 

    Don't won't to claim uc until we're told to do so keeping it as esa 
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 49,590 Disability Gamechanger
    edited February 23
    smudge9000 said:
    Okay I was reading something before and it says I can work no longer than 16 hours a week but will have to fill in permitted for work form 
     

    Permitted work doesn't apply to you because you're not the main claimant. You're not claiming ESA as a couple, it will be in your partners name and they will be receiving extra money for you.
    My advice i gave here is correct.
    poppy123456 said:
    As your partner is the main claimant of the ESA claim then there will be a £20/week disregard for any earnings you receive. After that the ESA will be reduced £1 for £1.


    smudge9000 said:

    Don't won't to claim uc until we're told to do so keeping it as esa 

    That doesn't seem logic to me if you're going to be working. If you claim UC then you will have the work allowance so more of your earnings will be ignored before any deductions apply. If you claim for help with any rent your work allowance will be £344/month, if you don't it will be £573/month.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • smudge9000
    smudge9000 Community member Posts: 40 Connected
    Uc isn't fit for purpose that's just my opinion 
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