Why the NHS doesn't work extra notes.

onebigvoice

I realise that some of my comments are controversial,  as having a "hidden" problem, there are no grey areas with me,  I am not using this as an excuse, but to my advantage, since when asking for what constitutes a legal document, I have all the laws and Acts quoted to me, this includes Charters and the Laws and Acts used in the assessment process.  
  Some of these are not readily known, and again because of my work history had used the documents I quote and the ones when asking the DWP to "cross reference their Charters RE-QUOTE the same back.  Some covering the Social Security Acts 2008 and 2011 to name two.
  I have researched every document, including: ones that apply to the Tribunal Service, the acceptance of a Third Party contract, and those rules, to abide by the main party contract rules since the DWP would need to have permission from the Claimant to use the information provided where they deem necessary to claim that benefit without having to ask each time, an example is Universal Credit.
  The need for the Assessment provider to provide a Medical Factual report every time is now in the charter and the "new" documents quoted by me in the introduction of those reports.  Those statements have now said, "...and also includes assessment providers."  
  In a nut shell, if you don't fill out the necessary paperwork under the production of this assessment and sign and date it with your expertise we will not pay for the report.
  I have a recent report from my Consultant after another MRI Scan where the Assessment Provider had been contacted as to the results of the scan?
  This is her letter to me:
  Dear Mr Onebigvoice,
 You can use this letter with regards to benefits.
  Mr OBV has RA and Severe pain.  This needs to be taken into account for the assessment of his benefits.
  He is currently having further investigations of his hands.
Yours Sincerely

  ELECTRONICALLY AUTHORISED BUT NOT SIGNED TO FACILITATE PROMPT CORRESPONDENCE.

  Dr S J BM MD FRCP
Rheumatology Consultant.

  also sent to my surgery, as I also have had a review of my Prescription, blood tests now 2 weekly. and including my Monthly Blood tests until APRIL 2023.

  This letter also includes my Name, address, Unit Number, DOB,  And that of the Doctor's details.
  In showing the Doctor a recent assessment from the Assessment provider prompted her to write to the Medical Board, and to the assessment provider, who on receipt of that letter withdrew the report they wrote and when back to information I sent in 2013 stating that the information is still relevant today.
  DID I RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM THE PROVIDER?  No I had to ring them, and again was stated Human error, and input of the wrong report?
  This is why I state that if the Providers are experts used for their medical expertise then they must be registers otherwise its an OPINION, which if I told you my medical history anyone in admin could give me a supporting letter saying I have known this person for the last 3 years or so and he is suffering from....... 
  My opinion:  If you don't want to show the report to your GP, why are you being asked to be assessed for the claiming of a benefit?  Since your GP treats you, in showing them your assessment report would give a professional slant on the content of the report and may, like me prompt a letter to provide support of their report as the content does not show and is based on an opinion of someone that does not know you.
    I would like to know if you agree or disagree, since in order for me to go forward as I am in the process of getting funding to take another certificate, and is over three years, the first part (is to recertificate my self) can be completed in the week I have booked, the rest in hands on. 
 

durhamjaide2001

I totally agree there needs to be another system in place 

Biblioklept

onebigvoice said:

  My opinion:  If you don't want to show the report to your GP, why are you being asked to be assessed for the claiming of a benefit?  Since your GP treats you, in showing them your assessment report would give a professional slant on the content of the report and may, like me prompt a letter to provide support of their report as the content does not show and is based on an opinion of someone that does not know you.
    I would like to know if you agree or disagree, since in order for me to go forward as I am in the process of getting funding to take another certificate, and is over three years, the first part (is to recertificate my self) can be completed in the week I have booked, the rest in hands on. 
 

In the nicest possible way, as it's definitely a me problem, your posts are very long with too much information for me to process (I have the attention span of a gnat!) so sorry I can't comment on it all but this bit stood out to me. 

I wouldn't show my GP my report or want them to see it for a number of reasons but the top three are:
1- I can't see my GP at all. They don't know me or half the struggles I have. In fact if I didn't have the struggles I have I'd probably see my GP more.
2- They're often very personal. My GP doesn't need to know whether I can cook, he can't help with that. Or my personal hygiene or other similar things. I imagine most GPs know only about pain or illnesses. They won't know all the different ways said pain, disability or illness can impact different people. 
3- It seems like a giant waste of GP time
4- GPs don't know or understand the criteria given for PIP/ESA/LCWRA/DLA etc. Yes they may know if someone has a disability or illness but not how it directly impacts that person. For example, one of my conditions is autism. My GP knows I have autism but that doesn't tell them anything else about me or my day-to-day life. Some people with autism need no extra support. Some lots. Some in between. Some excell at certain things and struggle with others. I don't see how a GP can help.

poppy123456

Biblioklept said:

onebigvoice said:

  My opinion:  If you don't want to show the report to your GP, why are you being asked to be assessed for the claiming of a benefit?  Since your GP treats you, in showing them your assessment report would give a professional slant on the content of the report and may, like me prompt a letter to provide support of their report as the content does not show and is based on an opinion of someone that does not know you.
    I would like to know if you agree or disagree, since in order for me to go forward as I am in the process of getting funding to take another certificate, and is over three years, the first part (is to recertificate my self) can be completed in the week I have booked, the rest in hands on. 
 

In the nicest possible way, as it's definitely a me problem, your posts are very long with too much information for me to process

No, it's not just you because i feel exactly the same.

What i don't understand is why onebigvoice is so obsessed with the assessment reports. I certainly wouldn't want my GP seeing my assessment reports. They have very little knowledge about how my health conditions affect me so why would they want to know about benefits assessments.

Supporting letters from any GP for benefit claims have very little weight anyway because a GP doesn't spend anytime with you to watch you prepare food, wash/dress/undress, budget, walk or any other activities related to PIP and/or the work capability assessment.

With a report like that from a Consultant, in what way exactly do you think it will help? It hasn't gone into no where near enough of detail. You need to give a lot more information than this.

onebigvoice

Thank you for your comments and take on board what you say.
As a short reply how is a GP going to prescribe medication or a referral to some one with more knowledge than him about your condition if he does not understand how it affects you?
  Do the assessors prescribe anything other than Financial assistance?  Do they refer you to specialist help?  No, my obsession is that I hate people telling me they are Registered Nurses, and Disability Analysts and are not found on any Medical Register in Britain or Ireland.
  The reason I know this as I was with someone this morning and had an assessment interview, and in asking this person if she was registered on the GMC or NMC register in order to understand some of the terms used in the medical information sent she did say yes as per the "new charter"  In looking for her name on the GMC and NMC register it was not their, she stated that she was still under training and that she had an Assessor with her to shadow her at this time?