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unclebob
unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
Do i need to tell UC that i have PIP 
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  • Alex_Alumni
    Alex_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,561 Disability Gamechanger
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    I believe you can tell them if you have any children who get PIP or DLA (to see if you're eligible for the child element of UC), but not if you get it yourself @unclebob, does that makes sense? :)
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  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    I believe you can tell them if you have any children who get PIP or DLA (to see if you're eligible for the child element of UC), but not if you get it yourself @unclebob, does that makes sense? :)
    Thank you i wont tell them then
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    Yes you can tell them. Are you claiming UC with a partner or as a single person?
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Yes you can tell them. Are you claiming UC with a partner or as a single person?
    Me and my wife i also work 24hrs i have my own business. My wife get's PIP and LCW
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    I believe you can tell them if you have any children who get PIP or DLA (to see if you're eligible for the child element of UC), but not if you get it yourself @unclebob, does that makes sense? :)

    That's not correct. If someone is claiming UC and they have children living with them, they would be entitled to the child element, regardless of whether they were claiming PIP or DLA for that child. (assuming they are not already claiming for 2 children) the 2 child limit applies for children born after 6 April 2017.

    If they are claiming either PIP or DLA for the child then they would be entitled to the disabled child element as well. There are 2 disabled child elements, if their child has either high rate care DLA or Enhanced daily living PIP they would be entitled to the higher disabled child element. If not then it would be the lower disabled child element.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    unclebob said:
    Yes you can tell them. Are you claiming UC with a partner or as a single person?
    Me and my wife i also work 24hrs i have my own business. My wife get's PIP and LCW

    Providing it's LCW that your wife has and not LCWRA then she can claim carers element for looking after you, providing she looks after you for at least 35 hours per week. She doesn't need to claim carers allowance because this is just deducted in full from your UC anywat so there's no financial gain. This will increase your maximum UC entitlement by £168.81/month.

    Are you claiming the LCWRA element for yourself? If not and your wife's PIP includes the daily living part and you look after her for at least 35 hours per week then you can also claim carers element for looking after her. (the same person can't claim LCWRA and carers element at the same time, which is why i asked if you were claiming it.) This would mean that your maximum UC entitlement would increase by £337.62/month.


    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Providing it's LCW that your wife has and not LCWRA then she can claim carers element for looking after you, providing she looks after you for at least 35 hours per week. She doesn't need to claim carers allowance because this is just deducted in full from your UC anywat so there's no financial gain. This will increase your maximum UC entitlement by £168.81/month.

    Are you claiming the LCWRA element for yourself? If not and your wife's PIP includes the daily living part and you look after her for at least 35 hours per week then you can also claim carers element for looking after her. (the same person can't claim LCWRA and carers element at the same time, which is why i asked if you were claiming it.) This would mean that your maximum UC entitlement would increase by £337.62/month.
    Im not sure what LCWRA is i get UV for me and the wife plus i get PIP and my wife get's PIP and LCW

    Surely we can't both claim carers element for looking after each other


  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    Yes, you can. There's no rules preventing both of you claiming carers element for caring for each other, providing none of you receive the LCWRA element for yourself. See link. https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Universal-Credit/Additional-Elements-of-Universal-Credit



    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Yes, you can. There's no rules preventing both of you claiming carers element for caring for each other, providing none of you receive the LCWRA element for yourself. See link. https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Universal-Credit/Additional-Elements-of-Universal-Credit



    Thanks what is LCWRA ? but claiming carers makes no sense to me when we both get pip have problems i thought you had to to be fit to get carers.  i forgot to say i have an interview this week for LCW.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    LCWRA is what can be awarded after a work capability assessment. If you're found to have this you will be entitled to an extra £354.28/month in your UC. See link. https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/universal_credit_work_capability_assessment
    Lots of people claim carers element and PIP and that same time. When being a carer you do not have to physically care for someone. Caring duties can include anything from just sitting with the person you're caring for or just mentally supporting them.
    I claim carers allowance for looking after my daughter and also claim PIP myself. My daughter is abled bodied and can do everything physical herself. She needs support in lots of other areas of her daily life.


    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    LCWRA is what can be awarded after a work capability assessment. If you're found to have this you will be entitled to an extra £354.28/month in your UC. See link. https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/universal_credit_work_capability_assessment
    Lots of people claim carers element and PIP and that same time. When being a carer you do not have to physically care for someone. Caring duties can include anything from just sitting with the person you're caring for or just mentally supporting them.
    I claim carers allowance for looking after my daughter and also claim PIP myself. My daughter is abled bodied and can do everything physical herself. She needs support in lots of other areas of her daily life.


    I'm so confused loll i get PIP and got interview for work capability assessment this week. But my gets work capability and PIP. how would i try to i have to call someone ? and is it another interview.  I don't suppose i could call you to ask some questions instead of here.
  • Alex_Alumni
    Alex_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,561 Disability Gamechanger
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    As we're an online only service we'd be unable to call you directly @unclebob, apologies for the confusion.

    If you'd like to speak to one of Scope's adviser's over the phone or by run through things together by email, the Scope Helpline reopens on Tuesday next week.
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  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    As we're an online only service we'd be unable to call you directly @unclebob, apologies for the confusion.

    If you'd like to speak to one of Scope's adviser's over the phone or by run through things together by email, the Scope Helpline reopens on Tuesday next week.
    So if i call a Scope's advise will they let me know what i can claim ?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    Unfortunately, you won't be able to call me or anyone other members here because we don't offer that sort of support on the forum for the safety of everyone.

    For the work capability assessment you're having this week, they will assess your ability to do any type of work. It's similar to PIP but with different criteria. You can see the LCWRA descriptors here. https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/universal-credit-uc/uc-faq/limited-capability-for-work-related-activity

    You said your wife has already been found to have LCW. Does your UC include the LCWRA element for your wife? It's £354.28/month, you will need to look at your statements to see if it's included, if it is then it will be included on your statements. 

    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Unfortunately, you won't be able to call me or anyone other members here because we don't offer that sort of support on the forum for the safety of everyone.

    For the work capability assessment you're having this week, they will assess your ability to do any type of work. It's similar to PIP but with different criteria. You can see the LCWRA descriptors here. https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/universal-credit-uc/uc-faq/limited-capability-for-work-related-activity

    You said your wife has already been found to have LCW. Does your UC include the LCWRA element for your wife? It's £354.28/month, you will need to look at your statements to see if it's included, if it is then it will be included on your statements. 

    Yes my wifes been getting £354.28/month for a few years now
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    unclebob said:
    Unfortunately, you won't be able to call me or anyone other members here because we don't offer that sort of support on the forum for the safety of everyone.

    For the work capability assessment you're having this week, they will assess your ability to do any type of work. It's similar to PIP but with different criteria. You can see the LCWRA descriptors here. https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/universal-credit-uc/uc-faq/limited-capability-for-work-related-activity

    You said your wife has already been found to have LCW. Does your UC include the LCWRA element for your wife? It's £354.28/month, you will need to look at your statements to see if it's included, if it is then it will be included on your statements. 

    Yes my wifes been getting £354.28/month for a few years now

    This will be what i was referring to earlier on in the thread. As she's receiving this for herself she will not be able to receive carers element at the same time because the same person can't receive both elements.

    It also means that even if you're found to have LCWRA yourself, you will not be entitled to the extra money because only one person can receive it per claim.

    You can claim carers element for looking after her, if you care for her for at least 35 hours per week. This will then mean you're maximum UC entitlement will increase by £168.81/month. You will also not have any work related requirements.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    This will be what i was referring to earlier on in the thread. As she's receiving this for herself she will not be able to receive carers element at the same time because the same person can't receive both elements.

    It also means that even if you're found to have LCWRA yourself, you will not be entitled to the extra money because only one person can receive it per claim.

    You can claim carers element for looking after her, if you care for her for at least 35 hours per week. This will then mean you're maximum UC entitlement will increase by £168.81/month. You will also not have any work related requirements.

    I don't get LCWRA  yet but have a call this week for to try, so if i fail and don't get it does that mean i can claim carers element to look after her even though i get PIP

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,158 Disability Gamechanger
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    unclebob said:


    I don't get LCWRA  yet but have a call this week for to try, so if i fail and don't get it does that mean i can claim carers element to look after her even though i get PIP


    Even if you're awarded LCWRA as i advised because your wife already receives this element then you won't receive the extra money and you won't be owed any money either. This means that you can claim carers element. To claim it you need to "report a change of circumstances" by logging into your journal (assuming you have one) then click "caring for someone" then tell them you care for your wife. (providing she claims daily living PIP)
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Even if you're awarded LCWRA as i advised because your wife already receives this element then you won't receive the extra money and you won't be owed any money either. This means that you can claim carers element. To claim it you need to "report a change of circumstances" by logging into your journal (assuming you have one) then click "caring for someone" then tell them you care for your wife. (providing she claims daily living PIP)


    So not really any point having the phone call this week for my claim this week then because i wont get anything either way is that right. so i might aswell try for carers to look after my wife, and i can do even though i get PIP and work part time?  

    Will i lose anything by claiming carers for my wife like other UV money like rent and stuff.

  • unclebob
    unclebob Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Will i lose anything by claiming carers for my wife like other UV money like rent and stuff.
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