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ESA to UC, joint to single claim

Shiv_forgets

Hi, I used to be in WRA group, then went onto a joint claim (in support group, with Sdp) as the secondary claimant, and finally escaped onto a single claim on (LCW) UC, should I maybe ask about the lcw element?
Or a friend recently sent me information about something called transition protection, but I don't fully understand how that applies, as I havent yet sent my PiP forms back? (Sorry for the TL:DR)
I really appreciate any & all feedback,
thankyou so much for your time,
Kind regards, Shiva

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Adrian_Scope

Hello @Shiva_Bootz and a warm welcome to the community.
What date were you originally awarded WRAG on ESA? If it was before April 2017 then I believe you should still be entitled to the LCW payment on UC. If it was after this date then you wouldn't be entitled to the LCW payment but should still be placed in the LCW group.

poppy123456

Regarding the SDP are you currently claiming either daily living PIP or DLA mid/high rate care of registered blind?

Shiv_forgets

Hello, thankyou! It was before 2017, but they said I "had to have" another assessment when I moved to UC, (after being on the joint claim.)
And hi Poppy, no unfortunately I didnt manage to send the forms back in time, and haven't yet re-applied, and I have no idea what disability premiums we had, or how much was awarded, due to... a difficult relationship?
Thanks again everyone ^.^

poppy123456

Did your ESA remain as a credits only claim? If it did then i think they are wrong not to include the LCW from the start of your claim.

Based on the information you gave you're not entitled to the SDP Transitional Protection.

Shiv_forgets

Sorry I'm not sure what credits only means, I know it was income related esa, both in the single claim w/wrag (pre-2017) and in the joint claim (support group) and I've been unable to work for around 9 years, (but didn't get my assessment for the first 2 or 3 years of sicknotes.) And thankyou, I didnt think so, as I was only in lcw ^.^'

Shiv_forgets

poppy123456 said:

Did your ESA remain as a credits only claim? If it did then i think they are wrong not to include the LCW from the start of your claim.

Based on the information you gave you're not entitled to the SDP Transitional Protection.

Awh thankyou, I've just looked into "credits only" and it looks like it has something to do with paying NI? Sorry I don't understand it very well... if it helps, I've gone straight from single claim of (ir)esa in wra(+hb), to being on my ex's claim for (ir)esa in the support group, to starting my claim for UC. I doubt it applies to my circumstances, but I really appreciate it! I'm still unsure if my 'pLCW' would continue through the joint claim or not, as I wasn't the main claimant?
(Sorry for writing so much)
Kind regards, Shiva

poppy123456

Credits only means NI credits for your state pension. When you were added to your Ex's ESA your ESA could have reverted to a credits only claimed because of LCW. To know if it did you will need to contact ESA to ask them. If it did then your LCW may transfer across with you and you maybe entitled to the extra money but i'm not 100% sure. I'll tag a member of the scope team and they will hopefully be able to advise you further. @Adrian_Scope can you help here please? I'd rather not give incorrect advice and i'm really not sure of the answer.

When you were included in your partners ESA because you weren't the main claimed your NI credits would not have been included.

Adrian_Scope

Hi @Shiva_Bootz. My understanding is that when you went onto a joint claim your ESA should have become credits only, so the LCW would then still exist in the background.
When you put in a claim for Universal Credit they should have checked for existing awards elsewhere, but mistakes do happen (anecdotaly more so with credits only claims) and many people are still being told they need to have a new assessment under UC when their existing award should transfer over.
Of course it could be that you are due a review but the LCW should be there until a new decision is made.

If you don't get anywhere with UC, you may wish to contact ESA and ask them to check for your ESA claim and whether it became credits only.

Shiv_forgets

Awwh thankyou both so much! I really appreciate it, the dwp guidelines are so confusing ^.^' I'll make a note to ask them both to check if this applies to my claims! (and hopefully remember to send my PiP forms back this time)
And thankyou again for all the help! I'll have to let you know how I get on
Kind regards Shiva

L_Volunteer

The DWP guidelines are confusing, indeed, @Shiva_Bootz. Have you been able to check this with them yet?

If so, I am just wondering how this has gone for you. Please do let us know how you get on and if there's anything else we can do to support you