NO MR, STRAIGHT TO TRIBUNAL?

emc123

Hi, Can anyone explain please what are these Special Circumstances that negate the need for MR and allow you to go Straight to Tribunal Appeal? PIP, England in particular.
Under what Circumstances is this Possible?
  I'm sure the Norm is MR 1st but the Gov site said " IF you don't Have to"...., then doesn't Explain the criteria. 
(Someone is trying to convince me Anyone can Skip MR but I know this is untrue so Knowing the Above might help Me understand and then Explain to this person).
I'm sure Scotland and N I have their own rules so maybe this is what she meant?
    Hope you can help Oh Wise Ones :-) x
     

poppy123456

For PIP you can't just "skip" the MR process, you need to go through this before you can take it to Tribunal. Scotland and N. Ireland have the same rules.

emc123

poppy123456 said:

For PIP you can't just "skip" the MR process, you need to go through this before you can take it to Tribunal. Scotland and N. Ireland have the same rules.

You're a treasure many thanks Poppy x

rebel11

It's the Government that says 'you have to do a MR', but I can understand why people want to go straight to Appeal.

The stats says it all, MR - 23% Success %, Appeal - 73% Success %.

https://www.gov.uk/appeal-benefit-decision/submit-appeal

emc123

rebel11 said:

It's the Government that says 'you have to do a MR', but I can understand why people want to go straight to Appeal.

The stats says it all, MR - 23% Success %, Appeal - 73% Success %.

https://www.gov.uk/appeal-benefit-decision/submit-appeal

Absolutely! I think of MR as a means to an End(Tribunal), they otherwise seem Pointless, and the only saving grace is that Offers Before Tribunal seem to be on the up, 15% of cases if I read correctly.x

2oldcodgers

emc123 said:

rebel11 said:

It's the Government that says 'you have to do a MR', but I can understand why people want to go straight to Appeal.

The stats says it all, MR - 23% Success %, Appeal - 73% Success %.

https://www.gov.uk/appeal-benefit-decision/submit-appeal

Absolutely! I think of MR as a means to an End(Tribunal), they otherwise seem Pointless, and the only saving grace is that Offers Before Tribunal seem to be on the up, 15% of cases if I read correctly.x

And by taking up the 'offer' you can still take it to the Tribunal whilst receiving the payments without the need for another MR.

poppy123456

2oldcodgers said:

emc123 said:

rebel11 said:

It's the Government that says 'you have to do a MR', but I can understand why people want to go straight to Appeal.

The stats says it all, MR - 23% Success %, Appeal - 73% Success %.

https://www.gov.uk/appeal-benefit-decision/submit-appeal

Absolutely! I think of MR as a means to an End(Tribunal), they otherwise seem Pointless, and the only saving grace is that Offers Before Tribunal seem to be on the up, 15% of cases if I read correctly.x

And by taking up the 'offer' you can still take it to the Tribunal whilst receiving the payments without the need for another MR.

For this, you must wait until the award is in payment before requesting another Tribunal.

DDN1429

poppy123456 said:

2oldcodgers said:

emc123 said:

rebel11 said:

It's the Government that says 'you have to do a MR', but I can understand why people want to go straight to Appeal.

The stats says it all, MR - 23% Success %, Appeal - 73% Success %.

https://www.gov.uk/appeal-benefit-decision/submit-appeal

Absolutely! I think of MR as a means to an End(Tribunal), they otherwise seem Pointless, and the only saving grace is that Offers Before Tribunal seem to be on the up, 15% of cases if I read correctly.x

And by taking up the 'offer' you can still take it to the Tribunal whilst receiving the payments without the need for another MR.

For this, you must wait until the award is in payment before requesting another Tribunal.

Sorry, I think I misunderstand this, so while awaiting tribunal, the DWP may make an offer, which can be accepted but still take to tribunal? 

poppy123456

DDN1429 said:

poppy123456 said:

2oldcodgers said:

emc123 said:

rebel11 said:

It's the Government that says 'you have to do a MR', but I can understand why people want to go straight to Appeal.

The stats says it all, MR - 23% Success %, Appeal - 73% Success %.

https://www.gov.uk/appeal-benefit-decision/submit-appeal

Absolutely! I think of MR as a means to an End(Tribunal), they otherwise seem Pointless, and the only saving grace is that Offers Before Tribunal seem to be on the up, 15% of cases if I read correctly.x

And by taking up the 'offer' you can still take it to the Tribunal whilst receiving the payments without the need for another MR.

For this, you must wait until the award is in payment before requesting another Tribunal.

Sorry, I think I misunderstand this, so while awaiting tribunal, the DWP may make an offer, which can be accepted but still take to tribunal? 

They sometimes make an offer of an award before the hearing takes place but it's rare. If they do you can accept the offer and your appeal will be cancelled (lapse). Once your award is in payment you can then request another Tribunal for that decision. You do not need to go through another MR process.

emc123

It's like having 4 cracks of the whip...
1, Initial Claim
2, MR
3, DWP Obliged to look again once Appeal Lodged,(some with offers),
4, Tribunal. 
Thanks so much all for your input :-) 
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