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Is it still worth living in the UK anymore?

2oldcodgers
2oldcodgers Posts: 743 Connected
We are far to old to relocate abroad. Given what we see now and if we were 30 years younger we, the whole family would leave for a better life elsewhere. We had the chance to work and live in Houston USA in 1985 but we refused as it would have meant leaving my wife' mother on her own.
Most of our children's friends have given up here. It seems that the harder you work the more you are made to fell guilty by having a good life and being financially secure.
One niece after finishing he PHD at Oxford up sticks and took a job as a professor in a university in Texas.
Another went off at 21to New Zealand, whilst another packed up and moved to South Africa.
 I have old school friends that moved to Canada and Switzerland in the 80's.

What annoys me about the cost of living here is that my hard earned state pension buys very little now despite the huge amount of DWP Second Pension payments I get due to the massive amount of NI I paid whilst working.
 
Anybody else regret staying here? 

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,406 Disability Gamechanger
    I love going to hot countries for holidays and have been to several different ones over the years but it's always nice to go home. I could never live anywhere but my own country.

    My children and grandchildren are my world and i could never leave them behind.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 743 Connected
    I love going to hot countries for holidays and have been to several different ones over the years but it's always nice to go home. I could never live anywhere but my own country.

    My children and grandchildren are my world and i could never leave them behind.
    I would have taken my two daughters with us when they were very young.
    I am so surprised that you could never live anywhere than in England. 
    Well if you are happy with what is happening here in many ways, that's your choice but it would not be mine.
    Our last move was simply to find a traditional English village with excellent schools and good transport links to the major towns and cities. When we moved here our police force consisted of one 'bobby' on a pushbike who would call in for a cup of tea on a Sunday morning and the local crime rate consisted of one attempted 'break in' in the last 12 months 
    Now well it's all gone. Crime is huge especially drugs. Two murders in the past 6 years - burglary gone wrong. Fights and stabbings over drug dealing. 

  • Biblioklept
    Biblioklept Community member Posts: 4,199 Disability Gamechanger
    I love going to hot countries for holidays and have been to several different ones over the years but it's always nice to go home. I could never live anywhere but my own country.

    My children and grandchildren are my world and i could never leave them behind.
    I would have taken my two daughters with us when they were very young.
    I am so surprised that you could never live anywhere than in England. 
    Well if you are happy with what is happening here in many ways, that's your choice but it would not be mine.
    Our last move was simply to find a traditional English village with excellent schools and good transport links to the major towns and cities. When we moved here our police force consisted of one 'bobby' on a pushbike who would call in for a cup of tea on a Sunday morning and the local crime rate consisted of one attempted 'break in' in the last 12 months 
    Now well it's all gone. Crime is huge especially drugs. Two murders in the past 6 years - burglary gone wrong. Fights and stabbings over drug dealing. 

    Looking at the news it seems like that's the case world-wide. I honestly can't think of any country that would be exempt from those things sadly :( 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,406 Disability Gamechanger

    I am so surprised that you could never live anywhere than in England.
    That's not what i said, i never revealed where in the country i live and never have here on the forum. There's only one person here that knows where i live and that's because she's a very dear friend of mine and i trust her.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 743 Connected

    I am so surprised that you could never live anywhere than in England.
    That's not what i said, i never revealed where in the country i live and never have here on the forum. There's only one person here that knows where i live and that's because she's a very dear friend of mine and i trust her.
    Is it that secret, the location?
    Anyhow if it's not England then my post only referred to that country.
  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community member Posts: 703 Pioneering


    Looking at the news it seems like that's the case world-wide. I honestly can't think of any country that would be exempt from those things sadly :( 
    Aye.  My daughter is currently touring San Francisco and small towns around ... she thought Cardiff was crime ridden but nothing compared to the US

    The UK isn't perfect but at least we've got the NHS .. creaking as it is
  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,397 Disability Gamechanger
               There's no place like home.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,406 Disability Gamechanger

    I am so surprised that you could never live anywhere than in England.
    That's not what i said, i never revealed where in the country i live and never have here on the forum. There's only one person here that knows where i live and that's because she's a very dear friend of mine and i trust her.
    Is it that secret, the location?
    Anyhow if it's not England then my post only referred to that country.

    I do not have to reveal my location, that's my buisness and not anyone else's. Your post referred to UK, there's 4 countries in the UK and not just England.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Beaver79
    Beaver79 Community member, Community Co-Production Group, Scope Member Posts: 15,702 Disability Gamechanger
    I would not live anywhere else. Every country has its problems.
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community member Posts: 1,552 Pioneering
    Migrants appear to want to come to UK - And they are now entitled to legal aid, to fight deportation
    So - yes UK would appear to be a good place to live
  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Community member Posts: 245 Pioneering
    edited April 2023
    My father is american and they are struggling too with the rising cost of living over there. 
    Speaking as a woman of reproductive age there is no way now i'd want to live in the USA personally, especially as one who is on the lower end of income scale. 
  • woodbine
    woodbine Community member Posts: 11,326 Disability Gamechanger
    The grass is never greener on the other side, many countries are experiencing high rates of inflation although ours is a little worse due to Brexit, other health services seem to do better but they usually include some element of payment at point of use whereas ours is free at point of use.
    Whilst admitting that the UK isn't perfect nothing on earth would drag me away from my country of birth ever.
    2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming 💡

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 43,948 Disability Gamechanger
    If I had the funds I would emigrate and take family with me. Without hesitation. 
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 743 Connected
    I've worked/travelled in most of the civilised countries in the world. Apart from the opportunity to live and work in the USA the best place that would suit me is New Zealand no1 and Australia No2
    In both countries I had family living who would have sponsored us all and there was a well paid job waiting for me.
    One friend had enough of the UK years ago - 1970's. His employer was under contract to provide accountancy support to the Saudi Royal Family. He never came back to the UK.    
  • Biblioklept
    Biblioklept Community member Posts: 4,199 Disability Gamechanger
    I've worked/travelled in most of the civilised countries in the world. 

    That's a lot of travelling and countries to visit!! Which countries aren't civilised? 

    I've always loved the idea of travelling. A mixture of OCD, anxiety and general inflexibility with change prevents it but I love the idea of it
  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community member Posts: 703 Pioneering
    Purrrrrrr said:

    I would have loved to live in NZ, Australia or Canada.  but after the way they treated their citizens during covid was awful and I would not even visit again now. 
    We were meant to emigrate to Australia in the 80's, after my father was headhunted ... him having a heart attack put a stop to it.  Glad.  Wouldn't have my wonderful family

    I've been shocked at how the Australian police treated people during their lockdowns.  The videos I've seen are mind-blowing ... more North Korea than Australia.  The compensation claims for unlawful arrests and police brutality is going to hit many, many millions of $$$
  • Steve_in_The_City
    Steve_in_The_City Scope Member Posts: 511 Pioneering
    edited April 2023
    I suppose we could all go somewhere else! I lived in West Hollywood/Beverley Hills for a time and to be honest with you @2oldcodgers you should have left the country when you had the chance, had fun, come back and enjoyed your pension!

    There is no point in moaning or looking back at what "might have been". You failed to seize the moment.

    There is no country in the world like England. We are privileged to live here, and if we don't like it we are privileged to go away. 


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