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trb10

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.  You won't convince me that people aren't dipping out of money they are entitled to.

JessieJ

@trb10 , you won't be losing out at all.

I received my PIP payment in the early hours, the amount I received was as expected, higher than normal because of the days from the 10th are at the new rate. I won't receive the full 4 weekly amount until May's payment. That is how it works, nobody will be dipping out.

trb10

JessieJ said:

@trb10 , you won't be losing out at all.

I received my PIP payment in the early hours, the amount I received was as expected, higher than normal because of the days from the 10th are at the new rate. I won't receive the full 4 weekly amount until May's payment. That is how it works, nobody will be dipping out.

I'm not talking about PIP.  That is correct you will have received a proportion at the old rate and some at the new rate as I did.  My question is why UC can't do the same thing.

poppy123456

trb10 said:

JessieJ said:

@trb10 , you won't be losing out at all.

I received my PIP payment in the early hours, the amount I received was as expected, higher than normal because of the days from the 10th are at the new rate. I won't receive the full 4 weekly amount until May's payment. That is how it works, nobody will be dipping out.

 My question is why UC can't do the same thing.

I already explained that UC is completely different and because it’s a monthly benefit the system can’t acknowledge part payments for different weeks. 

You’re perfectly entitled to disagree with me but I’m only advising you of the rules. I don’t make them! 

trb10

I already explained that UC is completely different and because it’s a monthly benefit the system can’t acknowledge part payments for different weeks. 

In this day of modern computers I don't agree with that statement at all!

Kimi87

trb10 said:

I already explained that UC is completely different and because it’s a monthly benefit the system can’t acknowledge part payments for different weeks. 

In this day of modern computers I don't agree with that statement at all!

Poppy has posted the facts as they are. 
If you disagree with how the system works, you are free to contact your MP. 

poppy123456

trb10 said:

In this day of modern computers I don't agree with that statement at all

What on earth has modern computers got to do with it?

trb10

You said the system can't manage different rates at different rates, I'm saying if they can do it for other benefits there is absolutely no reason why they can't do the same for UC.

trb10

Kimmy87 said:

trb10 said:

I already explained that UC is completely different and because it’s a monthly benefit the system can’t acknowledge part payments for different weeks. 

In this day of modern computers I don't agree with that statement at all!

Poppy has posted the facts as they are. 
If you disagree with how the system works, you are free to contact your MP. 

An MP is going to change the system so what's the point?

madmaddden

The increase came in on April 6th I believe but UC is April 10th?

My UC Journal states:

"Your next statement will be ready on 10 May 2023. Check again then.

On 14 May 2023 you will be paid any money you are entitled to.

The amount you get is based on your circumstances from 8 April to 7 May 2023."

I take it this means I'll get the increase in mid-June, seems quite a long time after the rates went up.

Kimi87

That is correct, on 14 June your UC payment will reflect the increase. 

I'm in the same boat, I won't get paid any more until 2nd June.

poppy123456

trb10 said:

You said the system can't manage different rates at different rates, I'm saying if they can do it for other benefits there is absolutely no reason why they can't do the same for UC.

As i've constantly advised UC is completely different to legacy benefits.

Cartini

The wheels on the bus go round and round....<sigh>

trb10

As I've constantly said, I see no excuse for it to be organised any differently.

poppy123456

trb10 said:

As I've constantly said, I see no excuse for it to be organised any differently.

https://www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-an-mp-or-lord/contact-your-mp/

trb10

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poppy123456

trb10 said:

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Exactly. I'm a benefit claimant just like yourself. I do not make the rules, i only advise people of them. If you want to get your point across then the only way to do this is to contact your local MP.

trb10

So do you genuinely believe if for argument's sake they announced a 10% DECREASE in benefits next year the system wouldn't magically be capable of making a pro rata calculation during their assessment period so you'd get part at the old rate and part at the new rate?  Coz I think they'd get that sorted out quick enough and people wouldn't still be receiving the old rate 2 months afterwards!

poppy123456

trb10 said:

So do you genuinely believe if for argument's sake they announced a 10% DECREASE in benefits next year the system wouldn't magically be capable of making a pro rata calculation during their assessment period so you'd get part at the old rate and part at the new rate?  Coz I think they'd get that sorted out quick enough and people wouldn't still be receiving the old rate 2 months afterwards!

No it would not. As i've advised quite a few times. The system can't calculate changes for part of an assessment period. Anyway, i'm done here and won't be responding any further to your comments.

Cartini

trb10 said:

So do you genuinely believe if for argument's sake they announced a 10% DECREASE in benefits next year the system wouldn't magically be capable of making a pro rata calculation during their assessment period so you'd get part at the old rate and part at the new rate?  Coz I think they'd get that sorted out quick enough and people wouldn't still be receiving the old rate 2 months afterwards!

I`ve been following this thread.

We all come on here for various reasons.  Some want company, some want (or need) help, some like making friends from all corners of the nation and some seek advice;  I`m the latter.  If I don`t agree with that advice I`m not rude about it and I certainly don`t try to undermine the person (or people) offering the advice.

Unfortunately this is how you come across; not only rude and argumentative, but also arrogant.

If Poppy isn`t giving you the advice you are looking for, may I suggest you go to another forum where people will be more than happy to tell you what you want to hear, no matter how incorrect that advice may be.