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PIP communicating verbally section of the form

lauz91

Hi I was wondering if anyone can help with the communicating verbally part of the pip form? I’m autistic but really struggle putting my own struggles into words and was wondering if anyone had any examples of this part? Not sure what they’re looking for and really stressed out as I don’t want to fight this and cause more distress. Thanks in advance

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bg844

This may help you although there's not a real example on it.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/fill-in-form-pip/9-communicating-verbally/

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lauz91 said:

Hi I was wondering if anyone can help with the communicating verbally part of the pip form? I’m autistic but really struggle putting my own struggles into words and was wondering if anyone had any examples of this part? Not sure what they’re looking for and really stressed out as I don’t want to fight this and cause more distress. Thanks in advance

Sympathies,

I have issues with part 9, and read all the caselaw I could find. Everything is really quite ambiguous and it's incompetently written. A couple of the judges in tribunals have tried very hard to tear it apart and try to work out what was really intended when the criteria were written - which indicates that it wasn't good enough in the first place!

For example, in 9D they use the phrase "Overwhelming" difficulty. How are you supposed to provide evidence for that? Curled up wailing wreck on the floor???!! One (Lady something) said quite sensibly that it's chicken and egg. If you don't do something then you are sufficiently overwhelmed to make you avoid it, so you SHOULD qualify. Unfortunately, in my case they applied the phrase to 9b and 9c which is clearly unreasonable (so I'm trying again).

Just struggling isn't enough though. I get panic attacks - the interviewer suggested that I could carry on when they passed, so that's OK, no points. I also score highly on the autism scales, but I'm told I can manage so again, no points. It's whether you can execute the activity, well enough, in reasonable time, etc, that matters. Then they (seemingly randomly!) decide whether it matters, for you. Bad.

In my unqualified opinion, the minimum you would have to do, is get an assessment from a "health professional" describing your problems. Otherwise the DWP won't take any/much notice of what you say. Your GP will I'm sure, help with that. If the HP can say your problems stop you doing something, it makes it easy for the assessor to tick the points box. Don't expect any medical knowledge from the assessor/interviewer OR their manager. They're supposed to have what they need, but my experience is that they don't.