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Priceman
Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
I recently got 11 points daily living which I was more than happy about but my health nurse advised me to go for a reconsideration as she says I should have got more points due to not be able leave my home because of my mental health issues and I get panic attacks which I get angry and struggle to be outside. Now I'm panicking because I don't want them to turn around and reward me nothing. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. 
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  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    Forgot to mention I had a telephone assessment and it couldn't prove I struggle going far without having a panic attack. I can not cope being around people specially if I don't know them. But on the telephone the assessor said I can mix fine with people coz I could talk fine on the phone but it is totally different. Thanks again for any advise
  • Adrian_Scope
    Adrian_Scope Posts: 11,381 Scope online community team
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    Hello @Priceman. Have you already submitted the reconsideration?
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  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    Hello yeah I have because me health nurse said I should but now I am non stop worrying that I might lose what I got awarded. 
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Community member Posts: 1,669 Pioneering
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    Try to calm down, try not to worry. Distract yourself when you start thinking about it.
    It is 'unlikely' to happen, at this moment in time you know nothing, but are fearing the worse, a waste of energy. Only 23% of MR decisions are awared, but 73% of Appeals's are successful, if you aren't awarded, you can Appeal, but don't rush the Appeal, make sure you get input from Scope, CAB  etc.  
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    Yeah I am trying but I waited so long to get anything in the 1st place. But my mantel health nurse thinks I should get something for mobility so I struggle with anxiety attacks when I go outside. I didn't know I could so I never mentioned nothing in my assessment but I thought it was purely for walking not anything else. Now I just a ball of mess worrying I will lose what I already had. 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,135 Disability Gamechanger
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    The most likely outcome of the MR will be the decision stays the same because only 23% of decisions change in the claimants favour. If this happens you can proceed to Tribunal where there's about a 70% chance of a decision in your favour, providing you either appear in person or have a telephone/video hearing.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • nasturtium
    nasturtium Community member Posts: 376 Pioneering
    edited May 2023
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    Hello Priceman
    You said you are happy with your standard daily living award so if you are happy with the award you have been given then you need not do anything. You have been "Advised" only and you do not have to do anything if you do not want to so please stop worrying.
    (Edit: Just read that you have submitted your MR so bellow will not count but I will leave it in for others to read who might find themselves in your situation.)
    You have a number of options. I do not know the length of your award but if it is a shorter award (3 years) then you will be requested to do a review in about 15 months time where you can then mention about your problems about leaving your home and panic attacks. You should always treat a review of an award as a new claim so this is a good time to mention it. The advantage of doing it at review stage is that is you lose your daily living award the descision maker must explain in detail how your condition has improved to justify the reduction of your award. If they do not do this or there is a poor justification of an award being reduced you have strong ground for MR and Appeal to get your origional award reinstated.
    Your second option is Mandatory Reconsideration that can be done with a written letter. I strongly advise people to never telephone to do a MR because the clock starts ticking as soon as you telephone to start the MR. You have 13 months to do a MR and if they refuse to do the MR you can go to appeal. As poppy as advised there is a low possability of a increased award and it is VERY rare for them to remove an award at MR. You best choice after MR is appeal where there is a greater chance of getting an increased award. If you appeal they will not remove your award because if there is a chance of that happening they will inform you first so you have the option to cancel the appeal to protect what you have.
    My advise to you is to take into account your mental health and the amount of stress it would cause you and ask yourself would it be worth the stress if you are happy with what you have now and wait until you have your review until you mention anything about your problems getting out.
    Above all whatever you decide you must not worry or panic. You have an award you are happy with and that is all that matters.
    I hope this advise has been of some help.
    Kind regards
    Nasturtium
    How to challenge a PIP award that has been reduced at Review https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/696285#Comment_696285
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 57,135 Disability Gamechanger
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    I do not know the length of your award but if it is a shorter award (3 years) then you will be requested to do a review in about 15 months time

    Reviews are usually anytime from about a year before. Before all the delays with review decisions they used to be 6 months before.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    Yeah I already submitted my MR, just coz my health nurse advised me that I should've got more than I did get. Like I said I was happy with what I had in the 1st place and any help is better than none. Like I said earlier I didn't realise about the mobility part as I thought it was only for people who struggle to work about like in wheelchair etc. But my nurse was adamant I should've got some mobility aswell but I wish I said in my assessment the 1st time round. But I worry it's all too late and that's why I'm worrying I might even lose my standard daily living. 
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    I was awarded 2 1/2 years
  • Rainbow116
    Rainbow116 Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    I’ve also submitted a MR and awaiting outcome, the waiting is awful … wishing you success @Priceman with yours x 
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    I’ve also submitted a MR and awaiting outcome, the waiting is awful … wishing you success @Priceman with yours x 
    Thank you so stressful. All the best luck with yours too x
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
    edited May 2023
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    I’ve also submitted a MR and awaiting outcome, the waiting is awful … wishing you success @Priceman with yours x 
    How long have you been in waiting for your MR decision? @Rainbow116
  • Rainbow116
    Rainbow116 Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Priceman said:
    I’ve also submitted a MR and awaiting outcome, the waiting is awful … wishing you success @Priceman with yours x 
    How long have you been in waiting for your MR decision? @Rainbow116
    Hi it’s nearly 4 weeks since I sent it off 
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    Priceman said:
    I’ve also submitted a MR and awaiting outcome, the waiting is awful … wishing you success @Priceman with yours x 
    How long have you been in waiting for your MR decision? @Rainbow116
    Hi it’s nearly 4 weeks since I sent it off 
    Have you not received a text or anything? I received a text this morning saying they will have made a decision by 5/7/23. 🤞
  • Rainbow116
    Rainbow116 Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    Hi @Priceman no nothing yet.   Hoping I hear soon though as this waiting is awful 

    hoping we both get some good news soon x
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    @Rainbow116 yeah the waiting is the hardest part specially when they really tell you how long. Maybe it might be worth trying to call them and ask if any update they obviously know before you receive the letter. I did it when I was first awarded because it felt like I was waiting a lifetime to hear off them but when I called they told me I had been awarded and told me how much and when which was a massive relief. Hope your get the news you been so long for x
  • Rainbow116
    Rainbow116 Community member Posts: 129 Courageous
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    @Priceman I phoned and told all my info received and with case manager … to expect a decision by 10th July 
  • Priceman
    Priceman Community member Posts: 19 Connected
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    @Rainbow116 fingers crossed for you and myself of course 🤞🤞
  • DPYat
    DPYat Community member Posts: 2 Listener
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    I had similiar, I scored 0 on everything and I really struggle to mix with people but because I work and had a good rapport with the assessor that apparently means I’m fine! However in my room on my own talking on the phone I am fine with! 

    I felt like they didn’t listen to me 
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