Universal credit and working??

Lostsoul13

I got a job interview I’m currently on esa worked a job for 7.5 hours but was only a hour a day for 6 days I quit it and found a better job which I have passed the assessment and been invited for interview - working as a host on the train although it’s 17.5 hours two days on the weekends and 14£ a hour. I tried using benefits calculator but didn’t get much joy- I’m currently in support housing a hostel for mental health- and my rent is quite high but because I get support the hb pay it at least half of it and another half comes from another organisation… would I be entitled to Uc ? And or can I work and still get housing benefits? 

How much would the uc  be ?? I’m currently on esa support group and pip enhanced for both components!

regards 

poppy123456

Working that amount of hours your ESA will stop because that’s above the permitted work rules.

You can use a benefits calculator to check entitlement to UC. If there’s any entitlement then you should claim it before your ESA ends. By doing this you’ll be entitled to the LCWRA element from the start of your claim. 

If your ESA includes the SDP then you’ll also be entitled to the SDP transitional protection, assuming you still live alone or treated as living alone. 

You’ll have the work allowance which means £379/month of earnings received will be ignored before the 55% deductions apply. 

As you’re living in supported housing your rent will continue to be paid through housing benefit but you’ll need to tell them that you’re working, which may reduce your entitlement. 

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/benefits-calculator

Lostsoul13

How much is uc a month for people in wales? As I’ll be earning 225 a week??

poppy123456

UC is the same rules nationally. How much you're maximum entitlement is will depend on your circumstances. You can use the benefits calculator i put a link up to above and put all your details into it and then it will tell you what your entitlement is. If you can't do that then you'll need to get a full benefits check from an agency near you.

Lostsoul13

It said I’m entitled to nothing but don’t think it stated the disability premium.. it’s not working for some reason even when I click on it..

if I earn 900 a month not before tax etc and the allowance is 379 a month then that leaves me over the threshold it seems??

those calculators ain’t that very good. I used them before you said- can’t make edge ways lol 

if my hb won’t be affected that’s the main thing I’m wanting to not be affected??? 

poppy123456

UC is one benefit made up of many different elements. If you're a single person aged 25 and over then you'll be entitled to the following..

£368.74./month standard allowance.. If you're under 25 then your standard allowance will be £292.11/month.

LCWRA £390.06 (you must claim UC before your ESA ends to be entitled to this) This will be your maximum UC entitlement before any deductions for earnings.

Does your ESA currently include the SDP?

The work allowance of £379 means you can receive that amount of earnings each month before any deductions apply.

Your earnings may mean that your housing benefit will be reduced but you'll need to contact them once you start working and it will be recalculated based on your earnings.

I checked the benefit calculator link above and it's working perfect for me. Very difficult to advise when i don't know anything about your current circumstances.

Lostsoul13

I used entitled to calculator- was much better : it said I’d only be entitled to the disability premium- 140 a week.. but I think my hb was complicating things because it’s like 2000£ a month lol 😂 

thanks so much for the information.. 

Lostsoul13

Do you know how long the disability payment is paid how long for?? I know they reduce it???

poppy123456

Lostsoul13 said:

Do you know how long the disability payment is paid how long for?? I know they reduce it???

If you're talking about the SDP Transitional Protection then this will be an extra £132.12/month. However, this will erode over time, this means that if other elements increase then TP decreases until it eventually stops completely.

Lostsoul13

How much time?

Lostsoul13

Because that’s the only thing I seem to be eligible for.. would that mean I’ll have uc eventually stopped??? 

poppy123456

It’s very difficult to advise without all the information. Are you under or over 25? 

What will your earnings be per month after tax and NI? 

Your earnings after the work allowance will reduce your whole UC entitlement by 55% and not just part of it. UC is based on earnings received each month. 

Lostsoul13

33 and 900 a month is my total earnings. No savings or owned assets.. 

Lostsoul13

Would I receive transitional element with universal credit and working tax credits?? Or just one or the other? I understand I’m eligible for working tax credits because I do over 16 hours?? 17.5

but also there’s a 30 hour element do you know how much these are??

poppy123456

You can’t start a new claim for working tax credits because it no longer exists for new claims. You will need to claim UC. 

If your ESA includes the SDP (you haven’t said if it does) then your UC calculation will be..
standard element £368.74
LCWRA element £390.06
SDP TP (if your ESA includes SDP) £132.12
Total UC before deductions = £890.92/month. 

Earnings £900 - £379 work allowance = £521 x 0.55 = £286.55 deduction for earnings. 

Total UC payable after deductions is £604.37/month. Plus you’ll have your earnings. 
If your earnings increase then your UC Will decrease, if they decrease your UC will increase. 

I can’t do any calculations for your housing benefit. 

Please note that these calculations are assuming you claim UC before your ESA ends. 

Lostsoul13

thanks that’s thanks that’s what I got from the calculator! Thanks so much 🙏 

Lostsoul13

My rent is 2000 a month because I live in hostel for mental health?? What the calculations for that?? Will I be liable to pay anything? Because working? All will it all be paid? 

Lostsoul13

I’m in support group for esa and getting disability premium 

Lostsoul13

I asked the correct amount of rent it’s 210 every week . Regards 

poppy123456

You say you live in a hostel, is this classed as supported housing?

Lostsoul13

Yes. For mental health issues.. with 24 hr support .