PIP Tribunal offers from DWP

etcher
etcher Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
edited June 2023 in PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
Just received a date for my PIP tribunal.
Is it possible that DWP will make an offer before tribunal date to save on costs?
I believe this is something they have done in the past but wondered if its still a possibility.

Comments

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    It's possible but don't expect it to happen because it's rare they do this.
  • etcher
    etcher Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Thank you,,,,,i have got to the point where i dont expect anything from DWP
    If they do contact me i will update the post.

  • nasturtium
    nasturtium Online Community Member Posts: 390 Empowering
    edited June 2023
    Hello etcher
    The majority of "offers" happen when the claimant submits an appeal for there claim. The DWP then review all of the anacdotal evidence on the claimants PIP2 Questionnaire form and there mandatory reconsideration letter again (its like a higher tier MR) and if there is enough anacdotal verbal evidence to warrant an award they will then contact the claimant and make them an offer before submitting the claim for tribunal.
    Because you have waited this long and now have a tribunal date then it seems that the DWP do not have enough verbal evidence from you to warrant them to give you an offer for an award. It is very rare for the DWP to give a offer just before a tribunal date but it has been known. I personally would be planning for your tribunal hearing.
    Nasturtium
  • etcher
    etcher Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
    Hi Nasturtium,
    Thanks for your comment. Yes, i will be preparing for the hearing and see what happens.
    regards
  • rebel11
    rebel11 Online Community Member Posts: 1,687 Pioneering
    edited June 2023
    It's the 'flexi - rules' the DWP allow themselves, I think it boils down to how much 'humiliation' the DWP representative is willing to accommodate whilst sitting on the Tribunal Panel, especially as 73% of Appeal cases go in favour of the Claimant.  
  • SonOfYorick
    SonOfYorick Online Community Member Posts: 41 Connected
    Hello etcher
    The majority of "offers" happen when the claimant submits an appeal for there claim. The DWP then review all of the anacdotal evidence on the claimants PIP2 Questionnaire form and there mandatory reconsideration letter again (its like a higher tier MR) and if there is enough anacdotal verbal evidence to warrant an award they will then contact the claimant and make them an offer before submitting the claim for tribunal.
    Because you have waited this long and now have a tribunal date then it seems that the DWP do not have enough verbal evidence from you to warrant them to give you an offer for an award. It is very rare for the DWP to give a offer just before a tribunal date but it has been known. I personally would be planning for your tribunal hearing.
    Nasturtium
    Hi Nasturtium,
    sorry there’s no timestamp (I’m on iOS with iPhone) so I’ve no idea if this post is fresh or five years old,

    im just collating some info and I could really do with knowing the veracity of the above, especially the bits concerning weight of accumulated anecdotes. Is this your experience specifically, other peoples or DWP procedural guidelines ? Not a dig at you, I just need to know that before building my appeal 

    thanks 




  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Hello etcher
    The majority of "offers" happen when the claimant submits an appeal for there claim. The DWP then review all of the anacdotal evidence on the claimants PIP2 Questionnaire form and there mandatory reconsideration letter again (its like a higher tier MR) and if there is enough anacdotal verbal evidence to warrant an award they will then contact the claimant and make them an offer before submitting the claim for tribunal.
    Because you have waited this long and now have a tribunal date then it seems that the DWP do not have enough verbal evidence from you to warrant them to give you an offer for an award. It is very rare for the DWP to give a offer just before a tribunal date but it has been known. I personally would be planning for your tribunal hearing.
    Nasturtium
    Hi Nasturtium,
    sorry there’s no timestamp (I’m on iOS with iPhone) so I’ve no idea if this post is fresh or five years old,

    im just collating some info and I could really do with knowing the veracity of the above, especially the bits concerning weight of accumulated anecdotes. Is this your experience specifically, other peoples or DWP procedural guidelines ? Not a dig at you, I just need to know that before building my appeal 

    thanks 




    The date of the comment was June 2023 and yes the advice given is still correct. Though it's rare for them to offer an award before the hearing but it can happen. 
  • Judy123
    Judy123 Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener
    Hi can I ask if they (DWP) do give you an offer does the information still go to Tribunal and both the Tribunal and DWP Rep get a copy of the bundle. I’m only asking this because my cousin works dealing with the Tribunal and I really don’t want her to know my business. I know she works with just a small group in this role and could easily be the allocated rep. Sorry, but I just don’t know the system of what happens with this.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    Judy123 said:
    Hi can I ask if they (DWP) do give you an offer does the information still go to Tribunal and both the Tribunal and DWP Rep get a copy of the bundle. I’m only asking this because my cousin works dealing with the Tribunal and I really don’t want her to know my business. I know she works with just a small group in this role and could easily be the allocated rep. Sorry, but I just don’t know the system of what happens with this.

    If you are offered an award and you accept it then your appeal will lapse. So there will be nothing more to send. 

    It's rare for DWP to offer and award before the hearing so please don't expect this. DWP don't always send a rep to hearings either. If they do and it's your cousin then this could be a conflict of interest and you should tell the judge that you know that person. 
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    Hi Nasturtium,
    sorry there’s no timestamp (I’m on iOS with iPhone) so I’ve no idea if this post is fresh or five years old,
    Just turn you iPhone to the side (landscape), you will be able to see the date/time.
    I use an iPhone and that doesn't work for me. 
  • SonOfYorick
    SonOfYorick Online Community Member Posts: 41 Connected
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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    noman said:
    Hi Nasturtium,
    sorry there’s no timestamp (I’m on iOS with iPhone) so I’ve no idea if this post is fresh or five years old,
    Just turn you iPhone to the side (landscape), you will be able to see the date/time.
    I use an iPhone and that doesn't work for me. 
    It works for me,15 pro, iOS 17.3.1
    13 pro max and still doesn’t work for me. I most used my MacBook so it doesn’t make a difference anyway. 
  • TheEmotionEngine
    TheEmotionEngine Online Community Member Posts: 3 Listener
    Hi There.
    I was made an offer on the last day the DWP were given to respond last week to avoid going to Tribunal and I accepted as I was happy with the decision.
  • bookrabbit
    bookrabbit Online Community Member Posts: 220 Empowering
    I don't have an iPhone but turning my cheap phone works if I then scroll sideways too.

    But surely it shouldn't be so difficult?

    I had wondered why posts weren't dated. It seemed a peculiar omission.
  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,653 Scope Online Community Coordinator
    Hi @bookrabbit, getting dates on all platforms is something we're currently working on. 
  • Christianuk
    Christianuk Online Community Member Posts: 14 Listener
    I believe this article is 2023 to march 2024
  • Christianuk
    Christianuk Online Community Member Posts: 14 Listener
    How long did you had to wait  when yiu made an tribunal appeal 
  • cookiedoe
    cookiedoe Online Community Member Posts: 11 Listener
    So I sent in my appeal on 16th Feb and was told the DWP has until 22nd march

    I received a phone call yesterday from the DWP where a chap over the phone went over a few things with me, he then awarded me 6 extra points taking both of my living allowance and motability up to enhanced instead of standard

    I was pleasantly surprised, but a call and offer can happen instead of a tribunal
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    .I use an iPhone and that doesn't work for me. 
    You either have you rotation locked in your quick menu or the large screen icons/fonts option enabled. 
    Nope, rotation is unlocked and don't have large icons enabled either, as no need for that.