PIP Assessors report . Some pages missing .

dottydotty

Hello  i  received  a  copy  of  my  PIP  assessors report .   It  was  very  hard  to  understand  .lots  of  abbreviations , also  i think   there may  be some  pages  missing .   The report  only  shows the points  awarded /selected for  the first  two  descriptors,  Does this  seem  right  .  

rebel11

The report should be a complete report, from memory mine was 11 pages, it should have all the 'descriptors' covered. Pages should be numbered in sequence. Call them, request a another copy. The report needs several reads, just to get your 'head around'. Not user friendly.   

bg844

It should also say on the first page what abbreviations have been used, they print double-sided too.

poppy123456

rebel11 said:

The report should be a complete report, from memory mine was 11 pages,

That's a very short report. I have quite a few PA4 reports here for face to face assessments and they are 28 pages. PA3 paper based reports i have are 18 pages.

dottydotty

Thankyou for  your  replies  . i  have  read the  report  several  times .  but  it  still    does  not offer  much  information  to  me  as i need  to  see  all  the descriptors chosen  and  why ..  Also  nothing  to  help  with all  the  abbreviations  . 
  Will phone  and  ask  for  another  copy  . 

poppy123456

How many pages are in the report? In the reports i have here there's no page for any abbreviations. I'm not sure they do that because sometimes members ask what an abbreviation means.

rebel11

rebel11 said:

The report should be a complete report, from memory mine was 11 pages, it should have all the 'descriptors' covered. Pages should be numbered in sequence. Call them, request a another copy. The report needs several reads, just to get your 'head around'. Not user friendly.   

Printed on both sides, so 22 pages.  

dottydotty

9   pages   on  my  report  .  only  printed  on  one  side  .     first  3  pages   numbered   1-3  Then  its  the  blank  spaces  for  the physical   examination  notes ,   ( blank due  to it  being   a  telephone  assessment ). )   Then 2  pages  for  the  2  descriptors  mentioned  .  

poppy123456

I see from a previous thread that your PIP stopped after a refusal with the review decision. Have you requested the MR yet? You don't need the assessment report to request this. You should request it in writing.

dottydotty

Thankyou   ,Yes have  requested  the  MR  in  writing , have  sent  the  reasons  why  i  disagree  with  the decision ,  and  i do  have  some  up to  date  medical evidence  which  i  will forward  onto  them as  soon  as  i  can  get  copies  made  My  review  form  was  returned  to  them  in  January  2022 .
I  sent  for   the  assessors  report  to  get  a  better  understanding of  how  the  decision  was  made  and  to   hopefully help  with  Tribunal  if  and  when  it  comes  to  that .

poppy123456

If it gets to Tribunal you will receive the report in with the bundle. However, concentrating on the report will not get you a PIP award. 

dottydotty

Thankyou  for  your  comments  .  i  was  just curious  to  see  what was  in  the  report .  I migrated  from  DLA  to Pip  in  2014  and  have  been  in  receipt  of high  care  low  mobility  since  this  date  . I  will  do  my  best to  get  my  award reinstated  ,but have low  confidence in  the  system  .  Thankyou  for   your  help .  

dottydotty

Received  the  complete  Assessors  report today , awarded   4 points .    interestingly the  decision   maker increased this awarded   6  points .    Have  not   studied  it thoroughly yet ,. yet  but  dd notice  one  major  medical  condition  not  mentioned  or listed  in  the  report , However  i did  send  a  comprehensive  list when i  submitted  the MR  so  hoping it  will be  seen  .   Thankyou  for all  your  help  and  advice  

nasturtium

dottydotty said:

but  dd notice  one  major  medical  condition  not  mentioned  or listed  in  the  report , However  i did  send  a  comprehensive  list when i  submitted  the MR  so  hoping it  will be  seen  .   Thankyou  for all  your  help  and  advice  

PIP is not awarded based on diagnosis or medical conditions. It is awarded based on the limitations and your inability to complete the 12 PIP activities Reliably (safely, repeatedly, in a timely manor and to an acceptable standard.) and the help you need according to the applicable descriptors for that activity.

Nasturtium

dottydotty

 Thankyou   Yes  i  realise  this  but  , . but in order  to  justify  the  descriptors  chosen ,it  helps  to  know  all the  conditions , and  how they  impact  on  daily tasks  etc .