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Sending a PIP form in very late

Luna23
Luna23 Community member Posts: 24 Connected
Ok so I did a silly thing. In January I wrote and asked for a Pip application form. I didn't call them on the phone because I get too anxious about so I wrote and they posted the form.

I've had some issues this year and was put off by all the stories online about appeals and tribunals to be honest so I didn't end up filling it in.

I want to have a go at applying now but the form says it has to be returned in January. Can I still send it in this late if I explain about my MH, fatigue and cognitive issues? If I can't do that now, how should I go about getting another form? I'm worried I've messed it up now.

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,406 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes just send it, if the accept it and you're successfully awarded they may not start your award from the date you first applied because you didn't return the forms.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Hannah_Scope
    Hannah_Scope Posts: 7,316 Disability Gamechanger
    @Luna23 As Poppy said, you can send it off. Will keep everything crossed for you! Please keep us updated :) 
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  • Luna23
    Luna23 Community member Posts: 24 Connected
    Thank you poppy123456 and @Hannah_Scope I'll send it in and see what happens. I will update here of course :)
  • paries1
    paries1 Community member Posts: 380 Pioneering
    Luna23 said:
    Thank you poppy123456 and @Hannah_Scope I'll send it in and see what happens. I will update here of course :)
    When you went past the deadline in January didn’t pip write or call / text you to remind you to send the form in . 
    I understand exactly how you feel , I’ve applied for the first time too and have the form . I’m really dreading filling it in . 
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 743 Connected
    Yes just send it, if the accept it and you're successfully awarded they may not start your award from the date you first applied because you didn't return the forms.
    Quite right!
    I should have reclaimed my DLA (High Care & Mobility). They sent the two part DLA forms to me back in Jan 2004 but by the time I felt fit enough to complete them (spent most of the following 7 years in hospital as an inpatient) in 2011 I was awarded what I previously had.
    No amount of pleading or requesting to have it back dated 7 years citing that I was not physically or mentally able to deal with anything and that I had evidence supporting it got me a result.
    Late claim means late payment with no backpay no matter what the reasons where.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,406 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes just send it, if the accept it and you're successfully awarded they may not start your award from the date you first applied because you didn't return the forms.
    Quite right!
    I should have reclaimed my DLA (High Care & Mobility). They sent the two part DLA forms to me back in Jan 2004 but by the time I felt fit enough to complete them (spent most of the following 7 years in hospital as an inpatient) in 2011 I was awarded what I previously had.
    No amount of pleading or requesting to have it back dated 7 years citing that I was not physically or mentally able to deal with anything and that I had evidence supporting it got me a result.
    Late claim means late payment with no backpay no matter what the reasons where.

    As it was 7 years then i'm not surprised they refused to pay you. Also if you're in hospital for more than 28 days then the DLA would stop. If there were times where you weren't in hospital but the days at home were less than 28 days they will be linked so you wouldn't have been entitled anyway.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Luna23
    Luna23 Community member Posts: 24 Connected
    Just to keep this updated. They didn't mention anything about the form being sent in late so I hope they do use the original date.

    I had my phone assessment last week, it took about an hour. I got the text saying Dwp received the assessment report. Should I ask for a copy of the report?
  • Luna23
    Luna23 Community member Posts: 24 Connected
    Ok so I got a copy of the report. Is it likely the decision maker will give me the same score as the assessor did?
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 15,894 Disability Gamechanger
    They usually do, but not always.
  • Luna23
    Luna23 Community member Posts: 24 Connected
    chiarieds said:
    They usually do, but not always.

    Thank you, they gave me 12 daily living and 18 mobility, I was dreading it as I know so many people don't get what they should the first time but will have to wait and see what they actually decide.
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 15,894 Disability Gamechanger
    Fingers gently crossed for when you get your decision letter :) Kindly let us all know how you get on.
  • Luna23
    Luna23 Community member Posts: 24 Connected
    They didn't disagree with the assessment and gave me higher rate for both until 2026 and backdated payment to the start of the claim. So relieved and I hope this positive news helps people just starting the process. Thanks everyone for your help and advice.
  • Hannah_Scope
    Hannah_Scope Posts: 7,316 Disability Gamechanger
    That's great news @Luna23! :) So pleased for you!
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  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 15,894 Disability Gamechanger
    Thank you for letting us all know your very good news @Luna23
  • 2oldcodgers
    2oldcodgers Posts: 743 Connected

    As it was 7 years then i'm not surprised they refused to pay you. Also if you're in hospital for more than 28 days then the DLA would stop. If there were times where you weren't in hospital but the days at home were less than 28 days they will be linked so you wouldn't have been entitled anyway.
    Neither was I but I did try my best to persuade them!
    Mind you when in hospital does the claim cease in it's entirety or does it just go into hibernation until when the hospital discharges you?
    I thought that it just isn't paid but it still exists.
    Depending on the answer my next question could be who fills the form in if the patient is in High Dependency /in a secure unit under section?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,406 Disability Gamechanger
    edited November 2023

    As it was 7 years then i'm not surprised they refused to pay you. Also if you're in hospital for more than 28 days then the DLA would stop. If there were times where you weren't in hospital but the days at home were less than 28 days they will be linked so you wouldn't have been entitled anyway.
    Neither was I but I did try my best to persuade them!
    Mind you when in hospital does the claim cease in it's entirety or does it just go into hibernation until when the hospital discharges you?
    I thought that it just isn't paid but it still exists.
    Depending on the answer my next question could be who fills the form in if the patient is in High Dependency /in a secure unit under section?
    It is suspended after 28 days and starts back once you're home. The day you go into hospital and come home do not count in those 28 days. It would be ridiculous if your PIP ended completly after 28 days! 

    Linking days also apply so if you go home and back in within 28 days they are added to your previous hospital stays. https://www.independentage.org/get-advice/money/benefits/benefits-hospital-and-care-homes

    This only applies those that are 18 and above.



    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • chiarieds
    chiarieds Community member Posts: 15,894 Disability Gamechanger
    edited November 2023
    2oldcodgers said:
    I should have reclaimed my DLA (High Care & Mobility). They sent the two part DLA forms to me back in Jan 2004 but by the time I felt fit enough to complete them (spent most of the following 7 years in hospital as an inpatient) in 2011 I was awarded what I previously had.
    No amount of pleading or requesting to have it back dated 7 years citing that I was not physically or mentally able to deal with anything and that I had evidence supporting it got me a result.

    I think there would be confusion in working out your DLA as paradoxically during part of this time you have stated you were also working (whilst sectioned!), '' When I had to retire on health grounds in 1995 after 29 years service they made my pension up to 40 years and started to pay it shortly afterwards. I then re-entered the Service in a different dept in 2006 and stayed there until 2009''
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/759398#Comment_759398

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