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poppy123456

Yes, there's more chance of success at Tribunal stage, providing you either choose one of these options for the hearing.. telephone, video or appear in person with a 68% success rate.

Paper based hearings have a much less success rate at only about 5-8%.

Yes, you can send evidence online. You can also request the appeal online, here. https://www.gov.uk/appeal-benefit-decision/submit-appeal

salty1212334

Hi do I choose to attend tribunal then will it let me select phone appointment or do I select not to attend


Its ok I done the appeal I also uploaded evidence I have also heard nothing back from citizens advice don't no if they are busy

poppy123456

You just need to tell them that you want a telephone hearing. Please do not choose not to attend. 

salty1212334

I done it if u select attend it gives u the option to choose phone call I also heard back from citizens advice they told me to pop in and ignore the 8 weeks I was told as yous have told me also

chiarieds

I absolutely think you have made the right decision. It would have wasted more time trying to sort out anything further with your MR, & the success rate with these is poor anyway (about 23%). As myself & poppy have mentioned, opting for a tribunal by phone call has a success rate currently of 68%, so a big difference. Here's hoping you are now moving forward with your PIP claim.

Jimm_Alumni

salty1212334 said:

I done it if u select attend it gives u the option to choose phone call I also heard back from citizens advice they told me to pop in and ignore the 8 weeks I was told as yous have told me also

It's really good that you're getting Citizen's Advice help on this. They'll be able to go through it with you in person Good luck with everything and we're always here if you need to ask anything else. Let us know how you get on!

salty1212334

Hi all how do I send extra evidence to tribunal I received a message about a hour ago with my complete medical record from my doctor it has letters in there from my doctor IAPT and psychiatrist my hip keeps subluxing it happened when I saw my doctor a few months ago he has put it in a letter he has also put locking of hands and subluxation of joints it says chronic problem it also says about my aspd/bpd and I will not get help for it it also says I cannot work on one of my letter the medical record i originaly sent over only had 7 pages this one has 79 pages 

chiarieds

I'd suggest you only send relevant evidence, thinking what actually relates to the PIP descriptors, as 79 pages of medical records does seem way too much. Remember that PIP isn't about any diagnoses, but rather the impact in your daily life, seeing if you can 'reliably' attempt or do these PIP activities/descriptors. PIP isn't about your ability to work either, as many people work & claim PIP. The only problem would be if a claimant was able to work, but this in some way contradicted something they'd previously said in their PIP claim.

If anything in your medical record hasn't previously been mentioned, then it would be OK to send it, so long as it was about how you were at the time of your PIP assessment, or related back to that time. Have you previously mentioned your joint subluxations, & do you know why this happens? Does this impact on your mobility most days?

Perhaps wait to discuss this with Citizens Advice if they're able to continue to help you with your tribunal.

salty1212334

Hi I was diagnosed with hypermobility I scored 6 on the beighton score I said my joints keep dislocating in my original assessment ive had bad knees for a long time I seen a rheumatolagist after assessment and got diagnosed with early onset arthritis behind my knee cap ive always had problems whenever i do anything physical my right foot swells my toes don't touch the ground and it hurts to walk I just never got it sorted as ive had a lot of things go wrong I got held up at knife and tazer point so I moved in with my mum as I couldn't trust no one then my mum got cancer got cured then died from heart failure then 1 year later my sisters partner died in hes sleep he had 3 kids with my sister now I am back where I was to start my so called friend stole 100 pound out of my first higher payment ive not seen him for a month he come to my mums funeral with me ive none him for 15 years I had a dwp appointment the same day as my mums funeral they mad me late I walked in towards the end and everyone just starred at me everything I do something happens I had a call to book psychiatrist appointment and make sure I am not psychotic the phone cut out half way through the call he blamed me said it was my fault as i changed appointment to phone call instead of face to face then the psychiatrist made me go to a clinic I went there the woman looked at me gone out said they are not doing face to face she phoned the psychiatrist he said if I could make it back home in 15 mins he will call me so he called and only had 30mins instead of 1 hour as he made me go there so I lost it he threatened to put the phone down they treated me bad now pip are harassing me  telling me 8 weeks when it was 4 theres always something they score me 0 for being around others I got signed off for that my dad dwp and so called friends have shaped my personality my dad is serving a 30 year sentence he was a bully to us I lose it I get a mad rage go through me then I am off if i bump into the lad who stole 100 pound I will lose it and he no's it I don't think about pain when I lose it ive also knocked myself out about 5 times and never went hospital or doctors I had a lump on my head it looked like a egg one time all them problems when I was younger have caught up to me i also sliced my achiles tendon when I was about 8 my foot was like a flip flop I almost died from blood loss I was in a wheel chair for a while but thats effecting behind my knee it keeps causing me problems especially in a car I have to put my brothers car seat right back I also had someone chase me with a weapon he was a meat head I never saw him before my legs was real bad for days after the rheumatologist said I shouldn't run I found out who it was after and my uncle took me to a pub and he had to apologise I said to him ive never saw him before he looked pail thought something was going to happen i shook hes and that was the end of it then a week later he killed himself imagine if he got hold of me with that weapon he would have tried killing me this is how messed up my life is sorry for waffling but this is whats been going on this is why I have been diagnosed with personality disorder 

chiarieds

I'm so sorry, as you certainly have been through an awful lot. 

It's good you have already mentioned your joint hypermobility. Myself & family suffer with this due to having the hypermobile type of Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, so I know how painful such hypermobility can be. I also have generalised osteoarthritis because of this. I think you can mention your osteoarthritis, as this is because of your joint hypermobility, which you have already mentioned, so that is relevant.

poppy123456

I found that last comment as one big block rather difficult to read, without punctuation and paragraphs. What i did manage to read i see you've been through a lot.

I agree than 79 pages is a huge amount of evidence and potentially far too much. Less is often more. I'd advise you to go through everything to see what's relevant and what isn't and also to check to see if anything has already been sent. Sending multiple pieces of evidence all saying the same thing also isn't helpful.

salty1212334

Hi @chiarieds it effects everyone of my joints even my ribs slip out they crunch when pressed my doctors was doing nothing for me until I spoke IAPT they helped me a lot. My doctor had the wrong address so they thought I was not going to appointments. I spoke to the receptionist about a year ago she was supposed to change my address but didn't thanks for the advice with the osteoarthritis 


Hi poppy my writing is awful I missed 5 years of school they tried sending me to a school where I had to go in a taxi for 1 lesson a day with no other pupils I never went and my mum got a fine if I could go back I would.

And my medical record a lot of it is blood test results but there is letters on there that I think could help I have IAPT letter to doctor psychiatrist letter and 2 letters from my doctor also how do I send it to them.

I contacted citizens advice they emailed back but I doubt I will go I will do it on my own with advice from here. I always think something bad is going to happen I am ok talking through message.

I got LCWRA with no help other than asking questions here. I am only trying to get PIP because I saw somewhere that they are forcing people to work who only get LCWRA with no pip is this true

I also had a woman phone from pip about the complaint I made about the stamp even though he was right she did say they said 8 weeks though not 4

Thank you to everyone who has helped without here I would have been forced to work in a warehouse 

poppy123456

The pargaraphs make it so much easier to read, thank you for that! With the evidence, i would leave out the blood test results. If there's anything else that's relevant like the letter from IAPT and what's mentioned in their hasn't been sent as evidence before then you can send that.

What you read about LCWRA and PIP is what they announced in the budget know as "disability white paper." It's what may happen. Nothing is set in stone yet so no one knows if it will all be put in place.

Citizens Advice can sometimes be a hit and miss and as you said, if you need advice about anything please just post here and i know someone will advise you. There's a lot of people that go to Tribunal without the help from any advice agency.

chiarieds

Since you put in your appeal online, you should be able to add your relevant extra evidence if you go back to this. As you, & poppy have said, your IAPT letter, then the psychiatrist's letter, & other letters if you're sure they're relevant. The one about early onset osteoarthrosis is relevant as it relates to your joint hypermobility, as it will have been caused by this, as mentioned above.

salty1212334

Hi I just looked at a email I have it tells me how to upload evidence I will go through my medical record and send anything relevant thanks

salty1212334

I cut it down to 29 pages about 8 was there signatures on a second page. I also saw something from when I was 9 my mum stopped taking me to a child and family day resource I was offered a appointment with a clinical psychologist but she ignored the letter. My doctor said there was nothing from when I was a child and made me go through IAPT first IAPT did help a lot though