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TheManFromLondon said: poppy123456 said: Confirmation here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/back-to-work-boost-for-disability-benefit-claimants-as-ground-breaking-employment-scheme-expanded Thank you. I guess whoever can mix and interact with people just got a huge headache. Meaning, mobility and physical ladies and gents, prepare yourselves.
poppy123456 said: Confirmation here https://www.gov.uk/government/news/back-to-work-boost-for-disability-benefit-claimants-as-ground-breaking-employment-scheme-expanded
Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts)
woodbine said: If I was in a good mood I would say maybe this is the Tories trying to work out how to approach a universal benefit set up, however I'm not and they are not, it looks like they are now decided they are going into opposition for a decade and want to leave a "legacy" behind them.
shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts) Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda.
TheManFromLondon said: For anyone who wants to read the Work Coach manual: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/403081/response/1002168/attach/6/HO%2005.01%20Work%20Coach%20Reference%20Guide.pdfIt is exactly what this new BS supposed to do. So nothing new.But in the general climate of the Gov trying to shake up things, @poppy123456 is 100% right, why worry for something that hasn't happened yet.
Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts) Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda. I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary' The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.Yes, I'm worried.
shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts) Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda. I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary' The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.Yes, I'm worried. I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted.
Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts) Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda. I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary' The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.Yes, I'm worried. I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted. I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality. Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.I cant go into town. Simple as that.The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen.
shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts) Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda. I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary' The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.Yes, I'm worried. I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted. I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality. Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.I cant go into town. Simple as that.The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen. Actually, I told a lie, the doctor would ring me, as I couldn't even order my anti-depressants and would tell the counsellor then the psychologist I had run out but my anxiety wouldn't allow me to ring or reorder. so letters were sent to the doctor to ring me. Then my family and friends had to get more involved with my care.
Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts) Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda. I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary' The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.Yes, I'm worried. I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted. I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality. Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.I cant go into town. Simple as that.The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen. Actually, I told a lie, the doctor would ring me, as I couldn't even order my anti-depressants and would tell the counsellor then the psychologist I had run out but my anxiety wouldn't allow me to ring or reorder. so letters were sent to the doctor to ring me. Then my family and friends had to get more involved with my care. Yes we have some stuff in common for sure.I'm autistic with OCD and have depression, bad anxiety and agoraphobia and other stuff. Can no longer ring or go to gps. Just cant deal with it. Need to see the dentist and trying to get an advocate, someone who could make the appt and come with me. Need to go to eye clinic and have cancelled a lot of appointments this year as want to get my eyes fixed but cant go through with it, cant go there. So just keep trying to get help but feel like giving up. No family, no friends . That doesn't bother me, my focus now is getting this advocate. I've emailed PohWer today about it.CBT doesnt work for me and seems to be all most of them offer now, like S2C and IPBT. So really unsure where transforming care could place me now.I wouldn't have cmht back again. They made me feel worse with their approach and questioning.
shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: 'People will be encouraged to deal with health related obstacles' it says.So an hour long chat with a dr who's working with the dwp, knows nothing about you and that's sorted.Ready for your WCAOne size fits all mentality again (like the cmhts) Exactly. My psychologist worked with me for nearly a year and the counsellor before that and they only got to the tip of my MH, which didn't even touch my physical disabilities. As I said I really don't want to scare monger, the only reason I found it was it was on my news feed on my phone. Funny though how the major news networks haven't mentioned anything Exactly why I hate the news they seemed to be controlled by the government for their propaganda. I for one am worried. I got LCWRA and PIP mainly on the social engagement part. Since then my mental health has deteriorated, so has my physical to some degree. Currently I'm receiving no support or help as transforming care seem unsure where to place me after getting kicked out by cmht. So think I am in a group they may be coming after.Notice at the moment it all says 'voluntary' The job centre did put a note in my journal last year inviting me in for a chat about 'how they could help me get my confidence back'I wrote 'go away and leave me alone' and cmht sorted it then.Yes, I'm worried. I am the same as you, but I didn't get a notice, wouldn't even be able to go on my journal due to anxiety. I would get my MH nurse to sort it out or my carer, as my psychologist recently dropped me due to me moving out of the area. Them wanting the doctor to get social services involved with my MH and physical needs The last time I had a job, I sat there at home, at my desk and I couldn't stop crying, they demanded I go on the phones and I just cried and cried and rang my doctor who immediately signed me off. I got sacked for my MH and the email said it was due to all your ongoing health issues. So if they forced me no doubt the same would happen again, although with my strong medication I wouldn't be able to concentrate for more than five minutes. I am inclined to say to put it in the back of my mind right now, I have too many health issues to cope with, especially when I have 20 anxiety attacks daily but its been noted. I cant use the phone but can go online. Cmht wanted to get social care for me, which I refused as I cant deal with people keep coming round here .The big problem is they actually dont u understand each individuals problems with their named condition, anxiety, PTSD, agoraphobia, whatever, is different simply because we are individuals! They, cmht or whoever, also have the one size fits all mentality. Cmhts response to my agoraphobia, had for four years now. They said come into town, we'll meet you at Tesco, go in get a carton of milk, then come out once queued up and paid, and you can go home.I cant go into town. Simple as that.The people who are suppose to be helping us dont get it. And dont listen. Actually, I told a lie, the doctor would ring me, as I couldn't even order my anti-depressants and would tell the counsellor then the psychologist I had run out but my anxiety wouldn't allow me to ring or reorder. so letters were sent to the doctor to ring me. Then my family and friends had to get more involved with my care. Yes we have some stuff in common for sure.I'm autistic with OCD and have depression, bad anxiety and agoraphobia and other stuff. Can no longer ring or go to gps. Just cant deal with it. Need to see the dentist and trying to get an advocate, someone who could make the appt and come with me. Need to go to eye clinic and have cancelled a lot of appointments this year as want to get my eyes fixed but cant go through with it, cant go there. So just keep trying to get help but feel like giving up. No family, no friends . That doesn't bother me, my focus now is getting this advocate. I've emailed PohWer today about it.CBT doesnt work for me and seems to be all most of them offer now, like S2C and IPBT. So really unsure where transforming care could place me now.I wouldn't have cmht back again. They made me feel worse with their approach and questioning. I adored my psychologist and became distraught when the sessions ended as she couldn't help me from afar and it frustrated her as she couldn't even get social services involved from a far to help with my MH but also my physical needs. It's a broken system. However, I just had a thought imagining us forced to work and the employer trying to do reasonable adjustments for us, it would be farcical and actually impossible. I hope you get help, I don't know where I would be without my family and friends.
Bettahm said: @shellbell20 Good to know you....That last bit from previous message
shellbell20 said: Bettahm said: @shellbell20 Good to know you....That last bit from previous message Yes, it is good being on Scope it is the only social engagement I do really other than with family, I don't trust anyone, but on Scope I trust the people here as we are in the same boat and we can help each other navigate things, answer questions if we have the knowledge, give our opinion without fear of being judged and socialise even if we just want to talk about our day.
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