YouTube PIP Advice

oldngrumpy

MODERATOR EDIT: DO NOT give your personal information to people online. If you need help with PIP then look for a local benefits advisor, or get the help of someone close to you.

Hia folks. Hope you are all well!.

I am still waiting for my Tribunal date, after submitting my original claim eleven months ago.
I watch on youtube folks telling how their Tribunal panned out, some have good experiences, majority are horror stories.
On youtube there is this channel where someone gives what seems to be good advice. Some folks have sent in their PIP claims and this person builds up their case to present at Tribunal. And allegedly this person has had 100% success rate.
Me, I am old school, I make notes on my abilities and disabilities, then CAB read through my notes.  And from there on they answer or present my case.
I am old school and don't trust folks. I could never divulge my personal details to anyone.

Am I correct in being wary, of this person, or do you/would you trust them.
I think they are trying to set up a personal business.

Opinions please?

poppy123456

oldngrumpy said:

Hia folks. Hope you are all well!.

I am still waiting for my Tribunal date, after submitting my original claim eleven months ago.
I watch on youtube folks telling how their Tribunal panned out, some have good experiences, majority are horror stories.

I don't think that's correct. I think it's the other way around. The majority of people (68% infact) who take it to Tribunal have a decision in their favour. Providing they either appear in person or have a telephone/video hearing. Paper based hearings have a much less success rate.

You will sometimes here bad stories about aTribunal but they are few and far between.

No comment on the YT person, sorry.

Jimm_Alumni

I am old school and don't trust folks. I could never divulge my personal details to anyone.

This isn't just old school, it's actually an unfortunate truth that often old people are the targets of online scams. They don't always know the risks. Not sharing personal information is a basic personal security requirement when you are online. I'm glad you didn't send your personal data @oldngrumpy. 

While I cannot say if they are a scam or not. It doesn't really matter, you shouldn't send such details to them. Though a 100% success rate is a little suspicious because tribunals certainly don't have a 100% success rate. Even if they are not asking for money, it's not worth the risk to give so much personal information over to someone. Medical information too. PIP information will also include where you live and the struggles you have. Think about what someone more malicious could do with such information.

If you need help with your PIP form or preparing for your tribunal you should get the help of someone close to you, or go to your local citizen's advice or another benefits advisor from a trusted organisation.

I've edited your post just incase people don't scroll down. What you say is entirely correct, I just want to make sure people read a warning before they think to search youtube for this person. You've  done nothing wrong bringing this up, I think it's a good teaching opportunity for people who may not be as wary or careful with their personal information when online.

MaaniMike

Deppi said:

I will say that out loud: You are advertising this individual, if you are not that person. You passively encourage people to go find that person.

Nobody should take this passive suggestion as serious. PIP is not a matter of skill, its a matter if you fulfil the descriptors. Period.

Nobody "can help" you get PIP 100%, you can get support from CAB or other organisations, but never, ever, someone will tell you 100% you will get it.

The internet (and not only) is filled with people who try to take advantage of the disabled community and this is one such example.

This is a ridiculous and dangerous post.

Wow this is not a useful reaction when OP could genuinely be seeking advice on what could be someone targeting vulnerable people. 

Admins will vet any posts that they don't see unsuitable so it's not for us to speculate what intentions of the OP is.

Rather than ridiculing someone we as a community should be pleased OP bought the question here rather than not question these things.

My advice is don't be lured in by websites, YouTube posts or other social media related content which makes such statements. Genuine sites like this exist which look to help people and reliable services like the CAB. No one can guarantee a 100% success rate however sites like this can give the advice and information that give you the best chance of obtaining the outcome you want and want you are entitled to.

Jimm_Alumni

I don't think Deppi's intention was to ridicule. They are just very wary and worried about the users of this community. There are many vulnerable people who use this community, some are struggled, or have struggled, to get PIP. It's possible they're in a place of desperation that they may try any method that suggests 100% success.

I think this thread is a learning opportunity to help teach people about giving their personal information to people online. Deppi's intentions were not malicious or bad. Nor are yours, I can see that. Youtube can be a place to find information about PIP (Scope even has a few videos on there about PIP), but the worry is when someone says "send me your info and I can get you PIP". 

Jimm_Alumni

I'm also neurodivergent with my ADHD. I've spent a lot of time communicating with people online though, I try to read between the lines to get to what the person is actually saying. Another good ideal I try to keep is to assume ignorance or miscommunication before going to malice/ill intent. Only doing so when the person makes it clear they have ill intent. We are only using text, we're missing the body language and tone that is often present in other forms of communication. Though, body language and tone can also be confusing a lot of the time! 

I myself am not very good at the exact wording of things a lot of the time, but I always try to make my intent clear.