DWP Unleashes New Powers Over The Poor In Shake Up

LostInTheVoid

https://www.gbnews.com/money/universal-credit-changes-sanctions

Thoughts?

They'll be coming for those of us on LCWRA/ADP next. 
They tories won't be happy until every street has a paraplegic postman, the schizophrenic stops claiming as he's now a teacher and...the COPD patient? Aaach we'll give them a job blowing up birthday balloons next to the dyslexic who counts them. 

"But this is just referring to jobsee..." yeah, for now...
We can also predict the ferocity of bullying that will ensue from embittered work coaches feeling less than enamoured by their underwhelm of their career. 

poppy123456

There's another long thread here related to this.. https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/110575/welfare-benefits-news-possible-changes-constructive-discussion-an-ongoing-thread#latest

TheManFromLondon

The only place I read LCWRA is the post of the OP. Is this post designed to make disabled people scared? Because there is absolutely nowhere anything about disabled people losing their benefits in those "shake ups", other than PIP being the gateway to the Health Element.

Hannah_Scope

Hello @LostInTheVoid

Would you like me to merge your post with the thread Poppy has mentioned? We have been keeping all our thoughts on what could happen there. As it can make people quite anxious. But you'll also find some other members to discuss it with!

Just to put as a disclaimer: There have been no official announcements over changes to the benefits system. 

LostInTheVoid

TheManFromLondon said:

The only place I read LCWRA is the post of the OP. Is this post designed to make disabled people scared? Because there is absolutely nowhere anything about disabled people losing their benefits in those "shake ups", other than PIP being the gateway to the Health Element.

Read my post again. 

poppy123456

Where it mentions UC stopping after 12 months, doesn't apply to those that claim help with the rent, have children on their claim or claim the disability element. It's focused on those that refuse to look for work and claim only the standard allowance.

LostInTheVoid

Hannah_Scope said:

Hello @LostInTheVoid

Would you like me to merge your post with the thread Poppy has mentioned? We have been keeping all our thoughts on what could happen there. As it can make people quite anxious. But you'll also find some other members to discuss it with!

Just to put as a disclaimer: There have been no official announcements over changes to the benefits system. 

Yes please, do merge it!
People are likely to take too literally or fail to see the bitter tongue in cheek of my post. Many of us suffered brutally at the hands of the Tories in 2012/13 when I.D.S unveiled his darling pioneer UC system.

I'll never forget the mental health impacts I experienced at the cursor and click of a manipulative work coach with an ideological chip on their shoulder. I'll never forget the cruelty inflicted upon several of my disabled family members at the pen stroke of the PIP assessor whose verbatim was anything but. 

My post might be somewhat emotional and presumptuous but it really does look like the nasty party is doubling down on their ideological agenda, so thinly veiled in spin it's laughable. This isn't centre right at all; it's far right politically and far from right morally. 

LostInTheVoid

poppy123456 said:

Where it mentions UC stopping after 12 months, doesn't apply to those that claim help with the rent, have children on their claim or claim the disability element. It's focused on those that refuse to look for work and claim only the standard allowance.

As someone with work shy and work fit family members, I agree from political stance and personal value, however; I came of age undiagnosed, unmedicated and quite unprepared for both WRA and the ruthlessness of the Tory-lib coalition of the time. I received virtually no meaningful help from any DWP employee and an overwhelming abundance of punishing cruelty that culminated in an almost predatory ATOS health assessment. 

I have observed most of your content to be well balanced and articulate Poppy; you are obviously quite capable of critical thought but unfortunately that is not the case with our policy makers. We all know this starts out as rational and practical behavioural modification designed to hold stick behind those with intent to "take the taxpayer for a ride", as Jeremy Hunt so bluntly stated. Policy reforms like these soon enough grow arms and legs that don't support them and will morph into an ideological war on the poor and disabled; Tory reforms always inevitably do. 

I will watch this space in the hopes my bitter predictions prove false. 

TheManFromLondon

LostInTheVoid said:  

I will watch this space in the hopes my bitter predictions prove false. 

Roger  Nostradamus.

LostInTheVoid

TheManFromLondon said:

LostInTheVoid said:  

I will watch this space in the hopes my bitter predictions prove false. 

Roger  Nostradamus.

It's not a far fetched prediction at all for anyone who remembers the UC rollout and IDS treatment of the disabled back in 2012/13. 

TheManFromLondon

@LostInTheVoid You seem really lost in the void. Chill. It will never happen. If you want to worry sick about it, go on, be our guest. I'll let you at it.