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UC natural migration

WhatThe
WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 900 Pioneering

Covid-19 accelerated the natural migration to Universal Credit which means that many disabled people miss out on transitional protection

It has been known since Universal Credit was first launched that many thousands of disabled people will lose out when they move onto Universal Credit. This was an intentional policy decision; ministers chose not to include disability premiums when designing Universal Credit. Yet the scale of the problem is bigger than was perhaps imagined back in the 2010s. More and more people are experiencing natural migration onto Universal Credit due to changes in their circumstances, especially in light of COVID-19. This means that more people will miss out on full transitional protection. 

Managed migration (or ‘Move to UC’) was, until recently, forecast to be finished by the end of 2023. It has now been pushed back, and the small-scale pilot in Harrogate is now on hold. In 2018, the OBR predicted that 300,000 people would move to Universal Credit under managed migration in 2020-21 and 1.1 million in 2021-22. In reality, only 80 households have been involved in the Harrogate pilot so far.

This means that many households who would have been part of ‘Move to UC’ and received full transitional protection will no longer do so. Whilst some disabled households will receive SDP transitional payments, these only compensate for the loss of a severe disability premium, whereas full transitional protection compensates for all other losses like the enhanced disability premium. 


Policy in Practice 2021


Comments

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,417 Disability Gamechanger
    It would have been helpful if you have posted the actual link for where you got this information from. 

    I can see by some of what’s mentioned that the artical is quite outdated and not very helpful, sorry. 

    lets start from the top. 

    The Harrogate pilot ended quite sometime ago. Managed migration has already started for those that are claiming Tax Credits and is well under way. Many many people have already migrated across after receiving their migration letters. Those that migrate across will not be worse off. Those that have savings/capital of more than £16,000 will have the capital disregarded for 12 months. 

    Yes some that claimed because of natural migration may have been worse off but not everyone will have been. For example, those that are claiming Income Related ESA that doesn’t include the SDP will be better off claiming UC, if they are in the Support Group. LCWRA pays more than ESA support Group. This is why the Government have delayed those claiming ESA from migrating to UC until at least 2028, unless they also claim Tax Credits. 

    For those that are claiming ESA that includes the SDP will receive SDP Transitional Protection. The high court have also just made a decision on the EDP that should be included with the TP. I posted the link here some days ago. See link to thread https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/112207/uc-natural-migration-high-court-ruling#latest



    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
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  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 900 Pioneering

    I can't do links. It's from Policy in Practice only 2 years ago.
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,417 Disability Gamechanger
    2 years ago is now out of date. A lot of that information you posted doesn’t apply now and it’s not helpful to other members because of this reason. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 900 Pioneering

    I can't do links. It's from Policy in Practice only 2 years ago.

    So in 2021, that small scale pilot was still on hold. Other UC trials involved only 100 or 500 claimants at a time. Yet the brake has been taken off this programme based on 10 years of 'test-and-learn' pilot schemes, vague conclusions and no risk assessment. 


  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 900 Pioneering

    I can't do links. It's from Policy in Practice only 2 years ago.

    So in 2021, that small scale pilot was still on hold. Other UC trials involved only 100 or 500 claimants at a time. Yet the brake has been taken off this programme based on 10 years of 'test-and-learn' pilot schemes, vague conclusions and no risk assessment. 


  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,417 Disability Gamechanger
    A lot of people claimed UC through natural migration during the pandemic anyway. Then managed migration started so no need for the pilot. 

    I don’t make the rules, I just advise people of them. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
  • Grissom123
    Grissom123 Community member Posts: 40 Courageous
    Hi, Poppy, quick question. I'm on Income Related ESA and in the Support Group, nothing else, does that mean I won't be transferred to UC until 2028?
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 52,417 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi, Poppy, quick question. I'm on Income Related ESA and in the Support Group, nothing else, does that mean I won't be transferred to UC until 2028?
    That’s correct. Unless a change of circumstances prompts a move in the mean time. However, as I advised in a previous comment above, if your ESA doesn’t include the SDP then UC with LCWRA pays more each month, than ESA Support Group. 
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.

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