Cmht discharge

Bettahm

So I posted a lot about this maybe a couple of months back but have now heard from transforming care that they wrote to my gp on April 12 this year telling him they'd discharged me. Transforming care are going to ask cmht to send me a copy of the letter, so will update here when I get it.

Complaint is Why was I not informed at the time?
By cmht or gp or transforming care!

Think TC have finally done this because I kept emailing them about it. 

It shouldn't be like this. This country's mental health care system is disgusting in its treatment of us who need help and support. 
The govt needs to shake it up instead of throwing money at pills and CBT.
A complete overhaul. So many need help and arent getting it.

Hannah_Alumni

I am so sorry that you had to be the one to continually chase up and ask for answers. You are right that it shouldn't be that way. 

Bettahm

So angry that three groups of health professionals have sat on that letter since April, not informed me or done a thing about referring elsewhere till recently when it should have been addressed back then.
Also would have been nice if someone had discussed with me the whole issue!
Wonder if I will get a copy of the letter now as TC have requested. 

I reckon when the support worker came here in March and said If you dont take our advice we cant help you... that was the end.
There 'advice' made me worse, it was no help. Did try to tell them in email. 
Got no response to it.

Cmht treat 'the conditions ' not the individual. If the individual doesn't respond to their textbook treatment of 'the conditions ' then you are discharged. 

I read this online in a Guardian article from 5 or 6 years back. 'Not responding to treatment ' is a reason to discharge you. They wont tell you , or refer you elsewhere. 

Sick!!

Hannah_Alumni

Sorry if I asked already, did you reach out to your local MP about the services? 

Bettahm

Hannah_Scope said:

Sorry if I asked already, did you reach out to your local MP about the services? 

Yes you did and I did.
I asked him if he could look into the whole way the cmhts were run and mentioned at least some of the stuff I've mentioned on this forum.
All he did was write to the chief executive of the nhs partnership trust for this county asking re me, why I was discharged. 
All nhs did was refer it to pals who referred it to the team manager of my cmht who said she would email me about my 'concerns'.
Have heard nothing. 
Mps secretary said let us know how you get on.....
I have told them no response but whether it will get taken further....
Maybe Scope would like to look into cmhts for everyones sake because they are being run like this UK wide as in that Guardian article. 

Hannah_Alumni

I would reach out to your MP again. I know it's frustrating that we have to be the ones persisting for support and help.

Bettahm

Hannah_Scope said:

I would reach out to your MP again. I know it's frustrating that we have to be the ones persisting for support and help.

I'm still in contact with his office so guess I will need to keep emailing regularly like I did with transforming care. 
Before the tories start picking on new claimants with mh issues they need to totally sort out our Victorian mental health care system. 

WhatThe

Hi Bettham,

Making your voice heard is the best thing you can do! 

The Mental Health Act is now 40 years old and the 2022 bill was shelved but autistic people are front and centre if that's any consolation?
Labour pushed MH in their 2015 election manifesto then voted in favour of welfare reform that July 

I once turned up for an appointment at CMHT to find the guy had resigned having previously told me at my initial assessment that there were four managers but no support staff. All drop-in services and CMHT offices in my borough closed before the pandemic. Perhaps DWP recruited the staff? The first UC 'coach' I met told me he'd spent 30 years working in MH - zero compassion, cancelled my claim    

Bettahm

WhatThe said:

Hi Bettham,

Making your voice heard is the best thing you can do! 

The Mental Health Act is now 40 years old and the 2022 bill was shelved but autistic people are front and centre if that's any consolation?
Labour pushed MH in their 2015 election manifesto then voted in favour of welfare reform that July 

I once turned up for an appointment at CMHT to find the guy had resigned having previously told me at my initial assessment that there were four managers but no support staff. All drop-in services and CMHT offices in my borough closed before the pandemic. Perhaps DWP recruited the staff? The first UC 'coach' I met told me he'd spent 30 years working in MH - zero compassion, cancelled my claim    

The whole thing stinks.

Tories saying mh and neurodiversity are better understood and tolerated now in the workplace and world in general...
Utter rubbish!!

I cannot work, never have been able to hold down a job because of autism. 
Now my autistic anxiety has got way worse, cant go anywhere due to agoraphobia even medical appointments. Cant use the phone.
Had depression for years and OCD.
Zero help with my mental health in the last five years so things are getting worse. 
Unfortunately my little voice shouting out wont get heard. I've been trying for five years, getting too tired and depressed. 
Now hear my gp and transforming care have sat on that letter since April 12.
I am so angry!!!

WhatThe

Better understood only relatively speaking but tolerated no, nowhere near understood enough to be tolerated  

Haven't they always talked rubbish, these millionaires?   

Your voice is heard here on Scope 

WhatThe

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ELECTION 2015: Labour promises WCA reform, an end to the bedroom tax… and cuts

By John Pring on 17th April 2015Category: Politics

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Labour has published an election manifesto that includes pledges on social care and welfare reform, but offers few new policies on disability rights.

The manifesto says Labour is the “party of equality” and that that “no person should suffer discrimination or a lack of opportunity”.

But it warns that, with the exception of the “protected” areas of health, education and international development, “there will be cuts in spending” under a Labour government.

It promises reform of the work capability assessment (WCA), the test introduced by the last Labour government in 2008 to assess eligibility for employment and support allowance (ESA), with a new focus on the “support disabled people need to get into work”, and a new independent scrutiny group of disabled people set up to monitor the WCA.

There will also be a new specialist support programme “to ensure that disabled people who can work get more tailored help”.

And Labour promises to abolish the “bedroom tax”, which it says is “cruel”, with two-thirds of those affected by cuts in housing benefit being disabled people or families with a disabled member. 

The manifesto also promises that a Labour government would abolish the employment tribunal fee system introduced by the coalition, improve training for teachers on working with disabled children, and strengthen the law on disability, homophobic, and transphobic hate crime.

On social care, the manifesto focuses on older people and carers, rather than disabled people of working-age, saying: “Care is at the heart of Labour’s values. No-one should fear old age or be left to struggle alone caring for a loved one.”

Since 2010, it warns, billions of pounds have been cut from adult social care budgets, which it says has left “300,000 fewer older people getting vital care services, at the same time as the number of older people in need of care is increasing”.

As with the Conservatives, the Greens, the Liberal Democrats and UKIP, Labour promises to integrate the health and social care systems, while also focusing on mental health.

The manifesto says that “vulnerable older people, disabled people and those with complex needs will be helped to have more control of their lives”, with the entitlement to a personal care plan, the option of a personal budget “where appropriate”, and a single named person to coordinate their care, as well as “better information and advice on managing their condition”.

It also pledges to end time-limited, 15-minute social care visits, introducing instead “year-of-care budgets” that would cover all of a person’s physical, mental health and social care needs and improve care in people’s own homes, and recruiting 5,000 new home-care workers – under the control of the NHS – to “help care for those with the greatest needs at home”.

A separate health and care manifesto promises to do more to ensure that people with mental health problems, learning difficulties and autism “enjoy the same rights as anyone else”, with “meaningful progress” for these groups a priority.

It also promises to consult on a new offence of corporate neglect for directors of care homes, which could mean a prison sentence if they neglect or are involved in abuse of people in their care.

Disability News Service contacted disabled Labour candidates Emily Brothers and Mary Griffiths-Clarke for their views on the manifesto, but they failed to respond.

But Dame Anne Begg (pictured), the disabled Labour candidate standing in Aberdeen South, was able to comment, although the Scottish Labour manifesto had not yet been published.

She said Labour’s promise to strengthen the law on disability hate crime was “very welcome”, as was the section on supporting disabled people to live independently, including the abolition of the bedroom tax.

She said: “There is also a promise to set up an independent scrutiny group of disabled people to look at how the WCA could be reformed.  

“I would like any Labour government to go further on this, as I think a fundamental rethink [of the WCA] is required and so would hope any scrutiny group would have a role in this.

“I am also glad there is an acknowledgement that there needs to be a specialist programme to give tailored help to disabled people seeking work.

“Those on ESA are not well served by the present Work Programme and [the specialist programme for disabled people] Work Choice.”

Dame Anne added: “I also think the plans to set up a single service to meet all the needs of a person’s health and care needs will be welcomed by disabled people, as they are often the people who are passed from one service to another and sometimes fall between the cracks.”

She also praised Labour’s focus on a right to access talking therapies for people with mental health problems, which she said was “particularly important for those who are trying to get back in to, or remain, in work and used to be a feature of the Pathways to Work scheme the last Labour government had in place and which the coalition government scrapped.”