Uk pulling out of ECHR

Rumi

What can people do to prevent this as it could affect every single one of us?

JessieJ

Yes, it's totally incredible! I can hear Churchill turning over in his grave.

2oldcodgers

Pull out we must. We are still tied to Europe with this unelected court.
Much better that we go back to the Magna Carta and develop our own bill of rights so that no one can interfere with our justice system anymore.

JessieJ

2oldcodgers said:

Pull out we must. We are still tied to Europe with this unelected court.
Much better that we go back to the Magna Carta and develop our own bill of rights so that no one can interfere with our justice system anymore.

We are not still tied at all, the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU. It actually enables us to make complaints about injustice within the EU. That's the trouble, a lot of people in Britain are blinkered as the first word is European. It was launched in  1950 as the Council of Europe to help protect people's human rights and fundamental freedoms. It has absolutely nothing to do with the European Union.

Stellar

It will very likely not happen. It's gammon meat aimed at placating people who don't or understand reality (whether it's other Tory politicians or members of the public like @2oldcodgers).

JessieJ said:

It actually enables us to make complaints about injustice within the EU. That's the trouble, a lot of people in Britain are blinkered as the first word is European. It was launched in  1950 as the Council of Europe to help protect people's human rights and fundamental freedoms. It has absolutely nothing to do with the European Union.

and also goes to show how people are easily absorbed by political propaganda and would proudly support their own rights being removed. anyone who believes Westminster parties will protect the human rights of poor, sick and marginalised people lacks basic political knowledge.

Albus_Scope

2oldcodgers said:

Pull out we must. We are still tied to Europe with this unelected court.
Much better that we go back to the Magna Carta and develop our own bill of rights so that no one can interfere with our justice system anymore.

Magna Carta was not intended to be a great charter of rights for all people, but designed by the barons to ensure that their rights were protected against the king's power. 

Albus_Scope

@Stellar can we please be careful not to give in to name calling. 

 Just a reminder to read our Community house rules. 

ladyluck

Of course human rights need protecting, but a 70 year old charter is being abused and we can’t house the world. Europe also realises this and are in the same mess we are in. I can’t get a dentist, hospital appointment or social care unless I pay. Why? because there are just too many people here, all needing services. We do need immigration, managed by skill sets, but not this uncontrolled fiasco. What is a country without its borders? As my old dad always said, ‘Life is a cake; cut the slices too thin and it crumbles’  Not everyone will agree with me, but that’s how I see it. 

ladyluck

Hi woodbine, sorry but I disagree, as you obviously don’t live where I do. I’ was waiting for a consultants appointment for almost 11 months, after fighting for a doctors appointment for several months, 14 weeks to get a bone scan then 22 weeks to get the  bone scan results. My dentist went private two years ago and I have been trying for an alternative in that time, to no avail.  Comparing your location with mine, a vastly overcrowded urban city, is not really an answer, is it? My doctor has an increase in patients of hundreds, he told me that himself. The quickest people  who looked after me were the chest x ray guys, they were very good and recalled me quickly for a second exam within weeks when they saw the extent and severity of my problems. So being fairly  newly disabled, I’m very disappointed with the slow pace in being seen. And it’s down to increased numbers needing attention in every single department. 

worried33

2oldcodgers said:

Pull out we must. We are still tied to Europe with this unelected court.
Much better that we go back to the Magna Carta and develop our own bill of rights so that no one can interfere with our justice system anymore.

The only time I see it conflicting with what we trying to do is when we are trying to erode human rights.

The latest one being the soon to be spying on bank accounts (which the opposition abstained on stating they support the bill).