PIP and hearings aids

honeyhoney

poppy123456 said:

What you need to do is focus on the weakness in your evidence and not the strength of theirs

"Golden thought" I've already seen it somewhere

Let me put it this way... my obsession is not with getting this award at all costs, rather I want to learn and understand something along the way.

I could take the easy route and approach an agency for help.

I could base my MRI on my deafness. And concentrate on 3-4 descriptors.

I currently have:

- diagnosis (ENT)

- audiologist's report (70 db)

- hearing aids

- a letter from a city council employee who was at my house

- a certificate from my city council confirming that I am severely deaf.

I could deliver all this to someone and pay, I think I would have a chance.

But that's not the point, I want to do it myself, I want to understand it. Even if I to have to go to the tribunal.

In my MR I will describe every descriptor that I think applies to me. Also following your advice, I want to rely on "anecdotal evidence" because it really makes sense to me.

I just finished the first 2 descriptors.

I did this:

ONLY one sentence at the beginning and  (reallife examples) and one sentence at the end.

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"Daily Living Component

• Activity 1 – Preparing food

AT THE BEGINNING:

I am NOT safe. I have almost caused a fire, cut myself many times due to distraction, and I cannot focus on simple tasks in the kitchen that others find easy.

THEN:

I gave details of 3 events that I experienced (it took me 1 and 1/2 pages in Word

AND ON THE END:

I cannot perform this activity in a reliable manner and without the supervision of another person.

Therefore, I believe I should score points for this activity"
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That's all, I'm going to describe each activity anyway, we'll see what effect it will have

To be honest, I don't expect the decision to change, but at least the work won't be wasted and it will be useful when the tribunal considers it

honeyhoney

I always wanted to be a lawyer, but life took a different turn, maybe that's why I have this approach?

poppy123456

Not being able to complete an activity that someone else finds easy isn't going to help you. It's not about someone else, it's about you. I can see in some parts you're moving away from what you should be focusing on. Please make sure it's relevant to you, not anyone else. Keep it relevant to the descriptors.

You don't need a lawyer or need to be one for a successful PIP award and you most certainly do not need to pay anyone for any help.

honeyhoney

poppy123456 said:

Not being able to complete an activity that someone else finds easy isn't going to help you. It's not about someone else, it's about you. I can see in some parts you're moving away from what you should be focusing on. Please make sure it's relevant to you, not anyone else. Keep it relevant to the descriptors.

You don't need a lawyer or need to be one for a successful PIP award and you most certainly do not need to pay anyone for any help.

Thanks Poppy for the advice, now I see that "the devil is in the details" and that's what I meant when I wrote about wanting to understand and learn something. I will definitely delete this from my MR.

When I meant that you have to be a lawyer,
I meant that a simple person writes an application and honestly describes what problems
I have and honestly answers questions. And in return he gets a rejection.

And the justification is that since I paid for fuel 9 months ago, it's OK now.
Because I go to the doctor, I don't have a problem with people (although I clearly described the problem).
When she asks me if I go to the store ? and I answer truthfully that I don't go because I can't hear what the salesman is talking (I didn't have hearing aid yet) and she writes that I go to the store, then is ok.
So how should I approach this MR ?

I've seen in other cases that if you're not taking pills, it means you're OK.

But also, like me, if you take the pills and they are effective, it's also ok.

As you can see, two different situations and the same answer is OK.

2oldcodgers

poppy123456 said:

The PIP self test isn't reliable at all unless you fully understand the PIP descriptors. The only time i will ever post a link to that is when someone has the assessment report and it's easier to work out any points that maybe recommended.

It's not just the reliability, it's everything else you need to understand too.

Then Heaven help those that are not that clued up on what the descriptors actually mean if there is no chance of them accessing any sort of professional help - charity or whatever - to guide them through the claim.
Personally I have never asked anybody for help, not that it wouldn't help me, but that there were long waiting lists at best and it would be too far for me to travel - 80+ miles for one advice agency! 

poppy123456

2oldcodgers said:

poppy123456 said:

The PIP self test isn't reliable at all unless you fully understand the PIP descriptors. The only time i will ever post a link to that is when someone has the assessment report and it's easier to work out any points that maybe recommended.

It's not just the reliability, it's everything else you need to understand too.

Then Heaven help those that are not that clued up on what the descriptors actually mean if there is no chance of them accessing any sort of professional help - charity or whatever - to guide them through the claim.

There's plently of other information available on the internet other than the self test. Which includes guides to help to fill the form in.

Many people claim PIP successfully without expert advice.

martymart

If the issue is at work you should have a DWP WORK PLACE ASSESSMENT as you comment clearly shows the lack of disability awareness with the employer 

poppy123456

martymart said:

If the issue is at work you should have a DWP WORK PLACE ASSESSMENT as you comment clearly shows the lack of disability awareness with the employer 

I'm not sure who your comment is referring too because the thread is about a PIP claim, not about working.

honeyhoney

martymart said:

If the issue is at work you should have a DWP WORK PLACE ASSESSMENT as you comment clearly shows the lack of disability awareness with the employer 

Hi, as poppy mentioned, we are talking about PIP, I am in the LCWRA group

2oldcodgers

poppy123456 said:

2oldcodgers said:

poppy123456 said:

The PIP self test isn't reliable at all unless you fully understand the PIP descriptors. The only time i will ever post a link to that is when someone has the assessment report and it's easier to work out any points that maybe recommended.

It's not just the reliability, it's everything else you need to understand too.

Then Heaven help those that are not that clued up on what the descriptors actually mean if there is no chance of them accessing any sort of professional help - charity or whatever - to guide them through the claim.

There's plently of other information available on the internet other than the self test. Which includes guides to help to fill the form in.

Many people claim PIP successfully without expert advice.

I'm sure they do but there are others that won't as (a) they would find using the computer to understand what is written and (b) they would be happier to let a WRO help with advice and with writing a MR (that's if there is someone reasonably local)