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  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Typical missed my bus back by literally seconds , got to wait 25 minutes now. I've signed up with boots to get my scripts and deliver them.

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Community member Posts: 14,985 Championing

    That's a shame @Sandy_123

    We just walked Jenson for 3 miles

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Thats a good walk @66Mustang keeps you and Jenson fit. I'm home now resting with a coffee

  • Jimm_Scope
    Jimm_Scope Posts: 5,293 Online Community Team

    I hate it when that happens too Sandy! Worse when the bus is every hour like it can be in my area.

    and then even worse when the bus an hour later doesn't turn up at all due to driver shortages.

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Community member Posts: 14,985 Championing

    I have a lot of respect for bus drivers

    They get just over minimum wage for driving round towns and dealing with traffic and handling the customers as well

    Train drivers just go in a straight line and don't have any interaction with the passengers but they get £75,000+ a year

    I might have ready misinformation here, but if it is true, I wonder how that's fair??

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Our bus drivers went on strike last year and got a very good pay rise. Of course the bus fair went up to support it. Getting 18.43 and hour.

    It is annoying @Jimm_Scope

  • Jimm_Scope
    Jimm_Scope Posts: 5,293 Online Community Team

    I have a friend in the bus industry actually, the reason there is a constant shortage of bus drivers is that all the private bus companies don't bother training new drivers as much as poaching drivers from other companies. Because it's much cheaper to give a bus driver from another company a slightly better offer than it is to train a new driver just for them to be poached by another private bus company.

    So they're all just taking drivers from each other and not training enough new drivers to keep up with demand and older drivers retiring.

  • Jimm_Scope
    Jimm_Scope Posts: 5,293 Online Community Team
    edited July 13

    What is a job worth? Is that an easy question to answer?

    What should they earn? Are they earning too much, or are other jobs earning too little?

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Community member Posts: 14,985 Championing
    edited July 13

    The thing is, why would someone train as a bus driver for £18 an hour when a train driver gets like 2-3 times that

    I remember looking into being a pilot, this was over 10 years ago so prices will be different with inflation

    It was £250,000 to train to be a pilot so over a 30 year career it costs you £11-12,000 a year with interest

    A train driver earns about £10,000 less than a pilot a year so you're better off being a train driver

    Obviously if you became a pilot for free via the RAF or just because it's something you love then that would sway it but the numbers were quite interesting to me

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    It is crazy my daughter in law gets a stupid wage in police force putting herself in dangerous positions where my son earns more with less danger. Same as drs nurses etc. Retail workers get same as carers. It's all muddled up isn't it

  • Jimm_Scope
    Jimm_Scope Posts: 5,293 Online Community Team
    edited July 13

    See, I look at that and question, not are train drivers being paid too much, but are bus drivers and pilots being paid too little?

    As @Sandy_123 says, the police (the police cannot legally strike!), carers, nurses, doctors, they earn so much less, but is that the train drivers fault? I think we should be asking why these aren't earning as much, and why they are earning so much less, than asking why train drivers earn as much as they do, and suggest they earn less.

    I'd rather make all the other jobs better off, than drag one job down.

    edit: Might be a good topic for a separate discussion? 😋 don't want to take up too much space about a specific topic here!

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Community member Posts: 14,985 Championing

    @Sandy_123

    In fairness in the police if the danger gets the better of you you get your pension maxxed out to 35 years, even if you have only done like 2 years, and should be financially OK for the rest of your life

    I do know what you mean about danger though!! My brother is a tree surgeon, he gets like £15 an hour for climbing up a tree with a chainsaw and stuff but if he gets injured he gets statutory sick pay which is like £17 a day

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Yes would be a good thread if anyone wants to start it lol

  • Jimm_Scope
    Jimm_Scope Posts: 5,293 Online Community Team

    If anyone else fancies adding I made a discussion here:

    😊 I think it's an interesting discussion, because there are quite a few different ways you can approach it, and it touches on about what do we actually 'value'?

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Awww @jean79 that's really nice to have the help with lunch shows she's a good one to have around

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Yeah she sounds a good one @jean79 it's good to find someone who is good and caring

  • Lou67
    Lou67 Community member Posts: 8,692 Championing

    Hi everyone I hope yous are all doing good. I’m not that long home I had a nice time down at the charity match met up with my sons future in laws and my grandkids were there to.It’s a small gym and they raised just under £1000 so did great.

    @jean79
    That’s really great you get on so well with your cleaner and lovely she made your lunch,

    @Sandy_123
    That’s a shame you missed your bus glad you home now and resting. That’s great you’ve signed up to get your prescriptions delivered. I’ve been getting mine delivered from a quite small pharmacy and they’re really great.

    ❤️

    Tagging misbehaving 😂

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Sounds like you had a fun time @Lou67 yeah I'm home

  • Lou67
    Lou67 Community member Posts: 8,692 Championing

    Yes it was a wee change Sandy I’m glad to be home now 😊

    @66Mustang
    That was another great walk yous had.

    ❤️

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 58,668 Championing

    Did you get your face painted