Migration timeline

wonkydaze

I've received a reminder letter to migrate before my deadline next month. I was going to leave it as close as possible to the deadline but now I feel panicky like it's going to take weeks to organise. Is there a guide to what I will have to do and what they need to look at? I'm still trying to work it all out and it takes me a bit of time to process information. When does a claim start when you set up an account or when you finish submitting all the evidence? From what I've learned I am going to have to write business plans, I should probably do this before I even start the process to migrate because I might not be able to do them at short notice after we migrate, if called to meet a work coach.

poppy123456

Your claim doesn't start until you submit it. Once You've submitted your claim your first payment will be 1 month and 6 days later. You will then be paid on the same date each month, unless your payment date falls on a weekend or bank holiday and then you will receive your payment on the Friday before. 

I see from a previous thread where I advised you that you and your partner are both self employed so you will need to attend a gateway appointment at your local job centre. Did you have a read of the link I posted in your other thread? There's some advice about claiming UC when self employed on there.

wonkydaze

Yes we are self employed and I did read the info on the link but will go through it again. I believe the gateway appointment will be when they look at evidence of the self employment.

poppy123456

If you don't have business plans already done then don't take them, you don't have to take them. In the link I posted on your other thread it advises what evidence it "could" include, not "must" include. 

Evidence can be anything from invoices, bank statements, tax returns, receipts etc etc. 

wonkydaze

Thanks for making that point of clarification. I've read through that link a few times. 

wonkydaze

Hi again, I am in a panic again! I migrated last week from WTC. I filled out the health section to say that I have a condition that affects my ability to work. I can't remember the exact wording or questions but I think I've messed up because I AM self-employed. I was answering thinking how I would struggle to be employed by someone else. I haven't stopped being self employed but it occurred to me that they might consider employment as self employment. I hope I'm making sense. I don't have a sick note because I thought as a carer (for my son on mid DLA) I wouldn't need to be expected to work anyway.  I put the date that my health has been affected as my date of diagnosis 16 years ago. My OH has 2 appointments booked to confirm identity and go over the self employed rules etc and he claims carers allowance for me but only my identity appointment has been booked for me to attend. I was trying to answer honestly because my disability would affect my ability to be employed because I would need a lot of adjustments and probably would only be able to manage part time even from home, which is what I can do through SE. Have I really messed up? My mind is running through a lot of worst case scenarios now like a major change of circumstance that would affect our transition protection. Can I clarify any of this with a work coach and can it even be changed? Thanks for reading

poppy123456

Employed and self employed are no different in the sense that you are still earning money. 

As a carer you have no work commitments anyway so the minimum income floor will not apply to you, even after the 12 month start up period. 

You haven’t done anything wrong but if you want to be referred for the work capability assessment you will need to provide fit notes. 

wonkydaze

Thanks for replying. I don't want to be referred for the wca. I'm just worried that the gateway appointment has not been set up for me but has for my partner. I imagine I'll still be expected to fill out earnings etc but won't have been told how to do it exactly. Also can you explain about the dates that the qualifying period run between. We transferred on the 1st so does qualifying period run between 1st to last day of the month. So income and expenses need to be declared on last day of the month? Or 1st of the month when the qualifying period is complete? Sorry I always find these things confusing in maths. My partners gateway appointment is via phone on the last afternoon of this month which seems to be cutting it a bit fine.

poppy123456

Everyone who is self employed needs to have a gateway appointment when they first claim UC or if they start self employed work when they already claim UC.

Your assessment periods (qualifying period) will start from the day you submitted your claim and run for 30 days each month. Therefore yes, your last day will be the last day of each month. That will be when you need to report earnings and expenses. The 1st of the month will always be the start of your assessment period. 

If you log into your journal and click payments, it will tell you on there. That will also be where you will see your monthly statements.