gap between old and new state pension

starvinmarvin

Hello,
With the triple lock in place, state pensions will rise.
I received my state pension some years ago and it is no where near the current new state pension.
With my pension rise being less than the new state pension rise, each year, the gap between the two state pensions will grow.
In 20 years time, hopefully still here, the gap between the two pension could be much larger.
Has Scope any plans in place to address this shortfall between the new and old pension systems for older pensioners.
Is my logic about this Correct?

woodbine

I'm not sure scope will want to address state pensions as they are a charity about disability, the gap between the pre and post 2016 SRP will stay about the same as they increase by the same % each year, this year it's 8.5%

starvinmarvin

Hi 
Sadly this is not the case. Disabled people get the state pension, this will effect them.
The gap will rise 8.5% increase on say 1000, will be less than 8.5% on 1200.
This gap will grow, year after year

Kimmy87

Pension Credit is available for those pensioners on low incomes https://www.gov.uk/pension-credit 

Cressida

@starvinmarvin don't forget you may have received your pension a lot earlier than what we do now. I got mine 6 years later than I expercted. 

Jimm_Scope

Hey @starvinmarvin, Scope have been campaigning for more government support around the Cost of Living crisis. Specifically around an Energy Social tariff alongside 148 other organisations such as Age UK. There is no specific pension policy we are campaigning for, but we know many people who are pension age are also disabled. 

There has not yet been a policy update since the new budget came out earlier this month. If anything happens I will let you know

66Mustang

starvinmarvin said:

Hi 
Sadly this is not the case. Disabled people get the state pension, this will effect them.
The gap will rise 8.5% increase on say 1000, will be less than 8.5% on 1200.
This gap will grow, year after year

Yeah but the difference between the two would be the same, proportionally, after x years

A £1,000 pension after ten 5% increases would be £1,629

A £1,200 pension after ten 5% increases would be £1,955

What was a £200 gap will be £326 after 10 years which is exactly ten 5% increases

IOW...being £326 worse off in 10 years is the same as being £200 worse off today

Hope this makes sense?

(Not saying it's right or wrong just trying to explain)

woodbine

starvinmarvin said:

Hi 
Sadly this is not the case. Disabled people get the state pension, this will effect them.
The gap will rise 8.5% increase on say 1000, will be less than 8.5% on 1200.
This gap will grow, year after year

Perhaps I explained it badly in % terms the gap between the two state pensions (post 2016 and pre2016) will stay the same as the % rise will always be the same.
For those on the pre 2016 pension many will qualify for pension credit.
As far as disabled people and pensions go many will still be claiming PIP when they reach 66 or AA if they aren't at 66 but become disabled after they are 66, so for many disabled people SRP aren't as big an issue.

poppy123456

starvinmarvin said:

With my pension rise being less than the new state pension rise, each year, the gap between the two state pensions will grow.

This is where Pension Credit comes into it. Those on New state Pension are less likely to be entitled to Pension Credit, unless they are entitled to a Severe disability Premium which increases their maximum weekly income.