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Universal credit migration

homo

I'm after some advice I've been on esa and in support group and child tax credits I've been ask to migrate so put claim in for universal credit and I've received a letter from esa saying my esa income based is going to universal credit and state they are guns pay contribution based esa as new style esa im so confused as should just be put in lcwra threw support group really stressing me out

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Kimi87

It sounds like your ESA was contribution based and income related.

As they have written, the CB part becomes New Style ESA, and the IR part becomes Universal Credit.

NS ESA will continue to be paid fortnightly, and be deducted in full from your monthly UC award.

LCWRA will apply to your UC claim from the beginning, but it can take a few weeks for the different departments to talk to each other.

NS ESA will be Support Group.

poppy123456

Your UC will include the LCWRA element from the start of your claim. You need to put a message onto your journal to tell them you're in the Support Group for ESA. It will take a few weeks for ESA to send your details across to UC. Once this is done your UC will be updated.

As part of your ESA was contributions based payments for that will continue (£138.20/week) but it will be deducted in full from any UC entitlement.

The ESA will revert to New style ESA and you will be contacted to agree to your claimant commitments for this. This part is a very straight forward process.

It means you'll receive payments for UC monthly and ESA fortnightly.

homo

Yes I understand that but on the esa letter it states work coach will make a claim commitment how's this when I will receive lcwra on universal credit so not fit for work also will I still get transitional protection with been asked to move over

Kimi87

As you have been asked to migrate then yes you will get Transitional Protection.

The claimant commitment is usually you agreeing to inform them of any changes.

Albus_Alumni

Heya @**** and welcome to the community. 😊

As Biblioklept has said, claimant commitments can be anything, so even if found LCWRA you'd still have some to agree to, which are usually just "complete my to do list" which could be something like making sure your account details are up to date.

homo

Hi poppy understand what your saying but as the esa is only contributory it will only last a year and I will have the lorca on universal credit can't see why I have to be claiming both when they take it straight off universal credit so upset by all this confusen

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/912104#Comment_912104

That's not correct. ESA CB Support Group isn't limited to 1 year. It's paid for as long as you remain in that group.

You don't have to claim both, you can stop the ESA claim once your UC is up and running but it will make no sense to do that because of the advantages to claiming it. You can't predict what may happen in the future. There's so many people who wished they had claim CB or New style ESA when they had the opportunity but didn't and now they are not entitled.

It's really not a complicated process to transfer your CB ESA to New style. All you have to do is agree to your commitments, everything else will be done for you.

homo

I havent had to claim it they have stopped the income related part as that's going to universal credit this is the part I'm confused about will I receive the lwrca parton universal credit and be in support group on esa but the esa get taken off my universal credit im sorry to sound thick its all new to me

poppy123456

You don't sound thick at all, UC Is complicated and confuses many people.

Yes, the Income Related part stops 2 weeks after you submit your claim for UC. The CB part continues as normal because it's not part of UC. The reason it's transferring to New style is because you've claimed UC and the old CB ESA no longer exists.

Your UC will include standard allowance, LCWRA element because you're in the Support Group and any other elements you maybe entitled to such as housing element, if you claim for help with the rent.

The reason why the ESA is deducted in full from UC is because it's treated as "other income"

Your ESA Support Group will be £138.20/week, paid fortnightly as always. The amount deducted from UC will be £598.86/month. This is because ESA is a weekly benefit and UC is monthly. To work out the monthly amount you times the weekly amount by 52 and then divide by 12.. £138.20 x 52 divide by 12.

There will be one month a year where you will receive 3 ESA payments but the deduction will remain the same.

As you will be claiming both benefits you'll receive ESA fortnightly and UC once a month.

Jimm_Alumni

Hey @****, as Poppy says, you are not stupid or thick. Universal Credit is complicated and it can easily confuse. It isn't straightforward or simple to understand, often those working for the DWP make mistakes on it and it's their job! I struggle with it. So try to not be negative to yourself about it, it's not easy.

homo

Hi how does the transitional protection part work the way things are been on both benefits thanks

homo

Hi sorry to be a nuisance but I've just had a pip review I was on enchaced daily living and got 434 a month but today had 462 put in bank any ideas why please

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/920543#Comment_920543

We can only guess what the reason is. To find out I'm afraid you'll need to ring them to ask.

Personal Independence Payment (PIP)

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https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/914472#Comment_914472

To answer this question, they look at what your maximum entitlement was for your current benefits against what it will be for UC and if UC is lower Transitional Protection will be included to make up the difference.

Meg24

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/920543#Comment_920543

This happened to me and it was because I was awarded mobility aswell and they added it on for the last few days of my payment period. You won't know for sure till you get your letter but it could be good news.