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Anxious about UC and my partner on ESA

tonixoxo

Hi, there hope someone can help me as extremely anxious about it all.

So I'm on uc and lwrca I then moved into my partners house, I had to add him onto my claim he's on esa (old style) in the support group and dla both highest ones, and has been since 2012. He had his commitments appointment the other day and he's to accept commitments he will look for work for 1 hour a week he also has a work search review appointment which he is in great anxiety and distress about. My partner has severe mental health problems and aspergers he's also recently came out of hospital in a mental health ward. We were constantly told and reassured his esa information would be transferred over its not still. Uc then told us we have to cancel the esa claim that's why not transferred so we did and still nothing. He's having to get a fit note that called for with a very cheeky receptionist at his gp saying why can't he work. My partner has never worked due to his conditions and we are terrified he's being forced into work, and with this work appointment this week don't understand. Currently waiting for a gp to call for a fit note. Is my partner going to have to do a wca as that's also been mentioned but he's in the support group for esa yes not transferred yet and I don't know why. Hope someone can help as we are in great distress about this all.

Thankyou

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poppy123456

As your partner is claiming high rate care DLA if no one is claiming either carers element of UC or carers allowance for looking after him then you can claim this.

As he was in the Support Group for ESA this is LCWRA for UC as advised above so one claims this and the other claims carers element. You will then be receiving your maximum UC entitlement.

Jimm_Alumni

Hi @tonixoxo, welcome to the community 😊 I'm not sure I can add much more than what Emilee or Poppy have said. Do let us know how communicating this to Universal Credit goes, or if you've anymore questions.

I really do hope you get this sorted. Just going to move this over to our Universal Credit section.

tonixoxo

Thankyou all for the help and advise. I will do this I've called numerous times sent messsges and we get told his information isn't passed over and this work search review appointment is this Friday, and they still have the commitments to be done by this Sunday. There causing great distress for my partner and me, he's severely mentally unwell and also is autistic (aspergers) just shocking as feel they have trapped us as we should get payment next week.

tonixoxo

I've popped all that to cade manager on journal all of that. We find they don't always respond at all to us. We are terrified we will be forced into accepting commitment this has to be done by Sunday and the work search review if we don't we don't get the payment next week. My partner isn't long out of a mental health ward in hospital and is causing so much distress for both of us.

poppy123456

If he's only recently claimed UC with you then it's not unusual for it to take quite a few weeks for ESA to send their details across.

Please take note of the carers element advice I gave above.

tonixoxo

Hi, yeah I totally get that but it's more uc making him go to work review this Friday and the commitments I'm away to call now also and say the same as the advise I got from here. And yes I will do I did actually already put down as a carer for him as it doesn't contradict the reasons I have lwrca and thankyou again

tonixoxo

poppy123456

It's normal for this to happen why you move from ESA to UC because UC do not know any details about your previous benefits.

Wonderman

Me and my partner recently moved in together and had to join our Universal Credit claims. I had LCW and originally it didn't show on our joint claim and because I said I had a disability, my journal said I might need a WCA. It was all sorted within a few weeks. Try not too worry about it.

tonixoxo

Hi, thankyou everyone for all the advise and help.

Unfortunately still no way forward I've called multiple times and they are still reapeating themselves over and over everytime I call or a message onto the journal. Also send messsge on journal to cade manager nothing. Universal credit told us we had to close my partners esa claim as that's why wasn't getting information, then wc saying didn't need cancelled but esa told me we can't have both benefits running. Information still not passed over was meant to get statement yesterday nothing, he has no choice but to accept work commitments to get paid. We have proof here on letters what he was on he's on the highest premium also is on high dla. It's very stressful and having a huge impact on my partner and also myself. The work review interview was cancelled but a new one has been added a work focused interview while uc claiming he's got no work commitments, and still saying has to hand fit note in to get an assessment but he was on esa support group and only reason he had to go on uc was cause I moved in and I was already on uc and lwrca and my partner couldn't stay on esa he was on old style esa since 2012 in the support group. It's becoming an extremely stressful and anxious time for us. My partner isn't well but all this even thinking of having to go or possibly doing an accessment will completely affect him. He is currently under cpn care he's not long out of hospital he's got a history of psychosis also and this I'm fearing is going to cause him going back into that state. As with his aspergrs he can not cope with change or all this with uc. Completely at a loss. I'll see if I can post the journal message I also think the wo is unprofessional personally and have asked for a new one. They don't listen at all other day I called the woman didnt gave a clue its just ridiculous and causing my partner and me great distress. We can't switch off at all from it, we also have to accept commitments Darren's one or our claim will be closed tomorrow. My partner has also been sent a p45 from esa which again is causing alarm and panic for us.

Thankyou

poppy123456

What date did you report the changes for UC? and when is your payment date usually please?

The reason I'm asking is because it's not unusual for it to take quite a few weeks for ESA to send across the details of the ESA claim. Once that is done your claim will be updated and he will be asked to agree to new claimant commitments.

tonixoxo

Are you meaning change in telling them about esa? From the beginning when I linked him onto my claim after he got out hospital. Mentioned he got esa support dla etc and at the identify appointment that was 3 weeks ago she said it flagged up for esa but no information has beeb sent over. I can't remember the date paid used to but I'm sure it's actually the same 8th and 22nd. It's got in the commitments not required to look or apply for jobs and after accepting it it's now saying he will attend job interviews etc which wasn't in the commitments before. Also seen the statement he's worse off and carers element wasn't added also. We had to accept it as the claim wpuld be closed tomorrow. So we feel very forced into having to accept when it's not even thr right information they have. The work focused interview is the 16th so we are just hoping and praying the information is sent so that can get cancelled and a new commitment as said this hugely impacting my partners mental heslth and also mine.

Thankyou

poppy123456

OK so about 3 weeks ago that you reported the changes that you now live together and your next payment is 8th October, is that correct? If so then that's not really long at all for them to send his information from ESA to UC.

For the carers element, are you claiming a qualifying disability benefit such as PIP daily living, or DLA mid/high rate care yourself? or is it just your partner claiming the disability benefit?

If it's just your partner then you will need to wait for ESA to send his details across to UC before you can claim carers element. This is because at the moment your UC includes the LCWRA element for yourself and you can't claim carers element at the same time. Once his details pass across you will then be able to claim carers element. Then your UC will include 1 carers element and 1 LCWRA element.

poppy123456

What I will say is that it's pointless ringing the UC helpline because they are as helpful as a chocolate teapot. They will only do what you can do, which is put a message onto your journal.

tonixoxo

Firstly thankyou both so much for all your help advise and reassurance also. I completely agree uc is useless and how they do things, yes information not over but to cause added stress anxiety etc to the point its impacting us hugely is so wrong.

We are just hoping and praying this appointment will be cancelled.

Got a messsge in journal today that the appointment has been changed to on the phone also something confused with he's been given a new commitments to accept before the 13th these are

Complete all activities in my to do list

Report changes

Before it was that plus have to attend all appointments, so I'm confused. Also a message from the work coach saying:

Hi, I have changed appointment on Wednesday 16 October 2024 at 10.40am to phone so there is no requirement to attend face to face. I have sent handover for ESA decision to allow case manager resolve any other outstanding issues. Apologies if all these messages and appointments is affecting you negatively. I believe once a decision is made you will be the first to receive the outcome. Sorry for any confusion or misunderstanding thanks.

That was the messsge got quite confused with parts that say a decision. I've not called today yet as never get anywhere, I've called multiple times for about a week and nothing seems to be happening. I don't understand the new commitments also or that messsge. The 1st commitments was not required to look for or apply for jobs plus had to go to appointments to now, complete all activities in my to do list and report changes and report changes to work so I don't understand it. We should get 1st payment tomorrow so if that's not accepted we won't be but I don't understand it as the work interview hasn't been cancelled and the part on last commitments that stated not to look or apply for jobs is gone.

Thankyou again for all the help and advice. I think it's ridiculous uc how they work and the impact they will have on so many people, and like someone said the way job centres are etc it's so wrong.

tonixoxo

Sorry forgot to mention it's just my partner who's on the DLA High rate and I was on lwrca prior to adding my partner onto my claim. The whole situation has been a mess as when I moved in my partner very quickly after went into hospital for 3 months he was sectioned. So I couldn't add him onto my claim until he got out, thankfully that's something they didn't give me an overpayment for as it was uc that told me to not add him on until he's back home.

OverlyAnxious

Hi,

I haven't read the full thread but just wanted to comment on the commitments part. That can be a payment block if you haven't accepted them before your payment date. I would recommend accepting them today if you're expecting to get paid tomorrow.

My payment got blocked because I didn't accept them quickly enough and that meant I got another couple of messages on the journal about it as well.

The fact that it only shows checking journal and updating of any changes means that his health conditions have been accepted now.

tonixoxo

Thankyou so much for your advise and help really appreciate it. Yeah that's what I was thinking to I've heard of a payment blocker.

Really do hope and pray his conditions have been accepted and that work focussed appointment gets cancelled asap can't explain how much this has affected my partner to the extend of he's not even getting out of bed that's how badly its affecting him. He can't cope with all this and near can I tbh but my partner can't even talk to them on the phone.

Again thankyou so much

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