Trump

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  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 813 Championing

    When we criticise America for electing Trump, aren’t we overlooking the fact that Americans voted with full knowledge of who he was? His persona, policies, and flaws were well-documented, and they knew exactly what they were getting. It was their right to make an informed decision based on that transparency. In contrast, we often fail to appreciate the value of such clarity in our own political choices.

    Can we truly stand in judgement of the American people, especially when we look at our own recent choices for prime minister, both under the Conservatives and, more notably, with Keir Starmer? Starmer has hardly turned out to be a paragon of virtue. His leadership has been marked by decisions many find difficult to defend, and it’s clear that our own political gamble hasn’t panned out as some had hoped.

    Voting requires trust and optimism, no matter where it takes place. Instead of hastily criticising American voters, perhaps we’d be wiser to reflect on our own voting history and acknowledge that, at times, our own choices have been far from satisfactory.

  • Ralph
    Ralph Community member Posts: 136 Empowering

    As the saying goes they made their bed….

    Of course he was democratically elected but that doesn’t make it an awful decision. We after all elected Boris Johnson, another charlatan who was in it just for himself like Trump. Time will tell what will happen.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 813 Championing

    I understand your perspective, and I agree that Trump’s actions raise serious moral questions. It's hard to reconcile voting for someone with such a problematic history, and his supporters must take responsibility.

    That said, we can’t reduce Trump voters to a single explanation. Some supported him for his policies, others out of frustration with the establishment, and some overlooked his flaws for what they believed was the greater good.

    The "convicted criminal and sex offender" aspect is troubling, but we must also address the deeper issues, like economic hardship and disenfranchisement, that fuelled his rise to popularity. I'm not defending him or his supporters, but the more pressing question must be how someone like him could even get close to the corridors of power.

    When I look at our own political system, I see how much the standards of statesmanship have eroded. In July, when I saw the list of candidates for prime minister, I couldn’t help but think: Is this really the best they can offer Uk voters?

    Given that, I don’t think we’re in any position to criticise other countries. I fear we’re heading in the same direction, and it won’t end well. When people are angry, they don’t always make the best choices.

  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,662 Championing

    I rarely wade into politics but anyone who voted for the man who asked 'could injecting bleach cure covid'… just saying

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 8,000 Online Community Team

    I really think the American school system needs to teach how the economy works to all children. There's been many interviews of people who voted republican, thinking Trump will magically lower the prices of groceries as soon as he steps into office.


    It'd be lovely if he could, but that's not how things work. 😕

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community member Posts: 2,211 Championing

    They will learn to regret their choice of president the hard way and it's going to hurt not only US residents but also the rest of the world !

  • egister
    egister Posts: 500 Empowering

    Trump has not started a single war, he is against wars - this is a miracle for the US President! Do you want an atomic warhead to explode over your house? I definitely don't.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 500 Empowering

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14905573/
    Alcohol vapor by inhalation in the treatment of acute pulmonary edema

  • TheManFromLondon
    TheManFromLondon Community member Posts: 382 Empowering

    I was waiting for this to be published, and say, he doesn't have to be elected again himself to have his political DNA as a prospect for a new presidency:

    https://news.sky.com/story/meet-the-trumps-is-the-incoming-president-about-to-make-the-white-house-a-family-business-13249917

    Beautiful family, the best family, you know when you got a great one. The best family in US Politics.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,433 Championing

    I like the way labour are worried an I correct to think that thier scared if Trump

  • TheManFromLondon
    TheManFromLondon Community member Posts: 382 Empowering

    Ok, ok. You love Politics and I will respect that. Wow, the passion in some of you, so happy I can see the blood pumping.

    So here a politics statement and watch that space:

    "Trump, is going to be the downfall of Starmer's Government."

    Not my words, and I do no politics really, but seems to be very possible, because of conflicting agendas when it comes to what plans people have for money… they dont have. Do you know what I mean? Dont spend it, before you get it?

    So, if the "Budget" and Half said Manifestos has upset you… what goes around, comes around.

    I prefer stability and continuity, I always respect a democratically elected government, but I doubt this will be a full term run…

  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,662 Championing

    @egister Really…..

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,433 Championing

    Good I hope starmer gets his just dessert 🍨

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Community member Posts: 237 Empowering

    He is going to pull funding for Ukraine?

    bravo

    Rachel Reeves pledged giving Ukraine 3 billion a year indefinitely...that has consequences on our economy and therefore citizens

    But

    Wouldn't be first time National Insurance pots were raided to pay for costly wars

    Was why Nye bevan resigned

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,433 Championing

    So if funded pulled will that money go back into UK

  • egister
    egister Posts: 500 Empowering

    Hi! I don't know you personally, and I can't say how you would behave at the head of all the troops of the state, but Harris as Vice President definitely supported wars and made no effort as Vice President to end them quickly. On the contrary, as Vice President of the United States, she supported the allocation of money to the military-industrial complex. They need money more than disabled people, don’t they?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,433 Championing

    She was amongst The Clinton's if you knew what his wife does you wouldn't sleep at night She had Beyonce j lo all those disturbed individuals on her campaigns if you know you know The corruption they are on par of shall I say worse than p diddy whilst Trump also a felon it really is the worst of them both

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 8,000 Online Community Team

    @Catherine21 can we please be careful with what we say, there's a tonne of misinformation out there about Hillary Clinton and I think it's best if we don't spread unfounded rumours.

  • Summerlove
    Summerlove Community member Posts: 237 Empowering

    Exactly also under their watch 325,000 children crossing over borders have gone missing presumed dead or human trafficked according to children rights representatives.

    80 percent of woman who cross have been raped and cartel has a line of victims underwear hanging up on trees.

    If that's a success story .........