Concerns about migrating to UC

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  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    I’ve heard that even on pay days on UC, you may not get your payment 💰💷 until as late as 8pm 🕗. On my pay days when I’m on it, which HAVE TO BE TWICE MONTHLY, I hope I won’t be waiting until 8pm for the money to land in my account.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    Payments on ESA, on PIP, they always appear in the bank 🏦 account after midnight 🕛.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    I expect funds 💷💰 to be in after midnight 🕛 or in the early hours of the morning 🌅.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    Why should it be as late as 8pm? 🕗😡

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    Even direct debits leave bank accounts 🏦 in the early hours of the morning 🌅 on the day they’re due to come out.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    My head is literally dominated with negativity about UC. I am thoroughly negative when I think about it… and I can absolutely understand why. They need to leave me alone until 2025, well into 2025 if they can do that 😡🤣. The comments sections below articles on the website benefitsandwork.co.uk, I scroll down to those sections and I see that experiences have a negative tone to them.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering
    edited November 2024

    Leave me alone DWP 👍, I don’t want to move over fast. I don’t want your doom letter ✉️ in the white/brown envelope very fast. I want to stay on ESA for as long as practically possible. Horrible, horrible, horrible system, a system as well that asks for fit notes from certain ESA claimants, a system that also tries to push certain claimants to have another WCA, a system that takes too long to receive the data about your ESA support group status.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    Yes, you do get a 2-week run on payment from ESA after you start your claim. They think that totally eases the burden when swapping over but you’re still left without any money for 3 weeks, and 3 weeks is still a sizeable gap of time to go without money. And no, asking for an advance payment is not a solution either.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    That’s a loan and that affects your UC payments for 2 years. TWO YEARS! As if I’d want to be paying back a loan over an entire two-year period and not seeing my payments in full for that length of time. ⏰🕰️⏱️📆🗓️📅

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    Two years is a very, very long time to be paying back a loan. 📅🗓️📆

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering
    edited November 2024

    Honestly, my head, when I think of UC, it’s full of negativity. I think of it extremely negatively and I can really understand why there have been many negative experiences shared online from those unlucky ones who have had to go through it already.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering
    edited November 2024

    Yes, I do know my entitlement on UC will be more than what I am receipt of on my beloved 💋😘😙🧑‍❤️‍💋‍🧑 fortnightly income-releated ESA. The current rate I’d be entitled to on a monthly frequency* is £809.64. This is higher than the amount that lands in my account from ESA every fortnight, £318.10.

    The asterisk * ✳️ *️⃣ indicates that I wouldn’t accepting this on a monthly frequency. That’s because I can’t budget my fellow Scope Community users. I have to get an amount of money on the payment frequency that is most suitable for my needs.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    There are just many negatives swirling around in my head 🤯💭💬🧠 that outweigh the positive of getting more money 💶. I am not shocked one little bit that I have come across many negative experiences.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering
    edited November 2024

    Undoubtedly, there are problems with the migration process. It’s alright the DWP acknowledging that there are issues but I just don’t trust them to fix the known issues 👨‍🔧🔧, even well into next year.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    Nobody on ESA that’s migrating across should be told to give any sick/fitnotes that are not needed, nobody on ESA should be made to feel like that have to do another WCA when they already have Support Group status.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    For them to even calculate my first payment correctly when I move across, they need to receive that info ℹ️ from ESA that I have Support Group status. Without that data that I was in the Support Group, my first payment would be wrong. What an absolute mess of a system 🚮🗑️.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering
    edited November 2024

    The UC helpline ☎️📞📱📲 will be getting calls from me often when I am migrating across. I’ll be asking if my UC account has been updated to reflect that I was in the Support Group. You’re treated like a job seeker until your claim is updated, hence that they ask ESA claimants for fit notes at first. 😤👿

    My claim will be a telephone ☎️ claim - no online account for me. No matter what anyone says about the online system, oh you can send messages to them in your journal etc etc, an online account won't be for me. It’ll be my claim, so my decision. I don’t do internet banking, a benefit claim won’t be any different.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 4,693 Scope Online Community Coordinator
    edited November 2024

    Hi @ChrisSCOPEhtfc94, I saw that you've got a lot to say about this topic, so I hope you don't mind that I've split your comments into a new discussion. That way other members who share your thoughts can find it and reply more easily 😊

    It's good that you know how to keep things under control for yourself with your budgeting. I hope that when you do eventually move over you can make UC work well for you.

    Fingers crossed there are more positives than negatives when it finally comes around, I'm sure there'll be a big adjustment but I hope it goes okay.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    I don’t mind you splitting the comments at all Rosie. Fingers crossed I’ll be left alone for some time yet but the negative thinking from me, I can’t help it. I know my turn is coming and when it does, I fear 😰 that I’ll go through a living nightmare like some ESA claimants already have. I don’t trust the DWP to fix the issues, regardless of the fact that they are aware of the problems that some are going through right now in this moment in time.

  • ChrisSCOPEhtfc94
    ChrisSCOPEhtfc94 Online Community Member Posts: 455 Empowering

    Payments from my fortnightly ESA, they allow me to budget more comfortably Rosie. I’ll be demanding that I get payments twice monthly from UC. I know I won’t be able to comfortably budget on a monthly frequency.