When did the hospital day room disappear?

whistles

And the pay per view for the tv get introduced?

I am so out of touch with life it's unreal!!

veriterc

I know exactly where you are going, and I follow you. Both these "initiatives" show the way the NHS is taking away

services that patients relied upon, and does't care about us - just targets. VeriteRC

theme79

hospitals are no longer the same institutions, staffed the same way, offer the same services, led by doctors or have anything to do with do with rehabilitation or prepare people to be independent (as far as they can) before discharging them.

Now whether you agree or not with this - all those ‘extras’ to basic medical treatment are left to local authorities or carers and a community that doesn’t have the money, the skilled staff or the will to do the job - so whether you agree of not when this It has beeb a total disaster that unfolded for many years and was devastatingly exposed when COVID arrived.

as a life long disabled person I saw the very worst of hospital care at Queen Mary’s Carlshalton Surrey to the very best at Royal National orthopaedic Hospital Stanmore for nearly 2 years in the mid 1959s. So I am not viewing from nostalgic rose coloured specs believe me!

my recent 10 days in SW London respiratory ward (a place I worked on as a trainee psychologist and admin for setting up an elder rehab unit in early 1990 - was hardly short of barely competent- after 12 hours in a hospital trolley and then a ward staffed largely was health care assistants who know almost nothing g about dealing with my care as a polio respiratory patient - or how my ventilator worked and how to manage my care!

Fortunately my wife was with me virtually 18 out of 24 and was of the opinion I’d be safer at home - I if course was still rooted in a system that I had grown up in and later worked I …. Stupidly as always my wife was right!

abd yet my 3 days at St Thomas specialist unit for polio and respiycare was excellent and though not perfect they were well staffed with fully trained nurses and doctors who knew what they were doing or if not got someone who did.

lesson is I s a lottery but these days the raffle is largely stacked against patients who have chronic illness, or are disabled or are elderly ….. a steep decline and as a health professional myself for many years very sad and depressing and of course for all of us SCARY !!!

whistles

I think people recover better at home that's always been the case.

As for funding, I forget when the government had the idea of care in the community and not putting people into a care home as they could be looked after at home. If they qualify for funding/can pay for care that is. There is a storage of carers as we know they are many unpaid carers out there.

onebigvoice

@theme79.

It is refreshing to see some who are willing to allow us to see what there life is at this time.

I agree since the pandemic things have never returned to "normal" what ever normal was, but my view is that the contracts given out to get us through the pandemic should have been rescinded, or at least reviewed, with a view of realising who the main contract holder are.

The NHS should be run by the NHS not people who have titles that say they have a budget and have to make cuts to the system. I never saw that in any agreement written by Nye Bevan.

The NHS is self sufficient and all profits were to be reinvested into the NHS not to companies who are supposed to help the NHS function and charge more than the NHS would charge.

If the NHS needed specialist Doctors, Nurses and Ancillary Staff it would hire them and train them within the NHS, after all who is training these contractors to become care workers or any other employee of the NHS.

There is a need of Contractual Staff but within the NHS umbrella not as a means for making money FROM THE NHS.

JW77

To answer when - Sometime in the 80's and 90's, linking somewhat with devolution & creation of NHS 'trusts'.
Thatcher wanted to close a lot of things including hospital schools (for inpatient kids) My mum led the protest to stop it. Then came the closure & tendering of offsite hospital catering/porter co's landscaping, car parking, maintenance just about anything that wasn't front line or tied down to specialist services..

whistles

Even the car park is out sourced to a company that's nothing to do with the hospital.

The money should be going back into the nhs.

veriterc

And I understand my local NHS Trust makes staff pay for car parking. What other company charges employees for car

parking to access their work?

whistles

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/956838#Comment_956838

Same here, I think that's awful. If there isn't a staff car park then fine, but to charge staff to work on the hospital is awful.

veriterc

One wonders why the Unions don't do more to protest on their members' behalf.