Changes to UC LCWRA
Can I ask, can the changes to Universal Credit LCWRA group be made immediately, without consulting Government and for existing claimants. I'm on a Benefits Advice group where some think they can change LCWRA without any consultation or time period? Just wondering what the process would be and how long changes might take?
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No one knows yet but they can't change anything without consultation much as they would like to.
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Thanks for your reply. I know no one knows for sure, just wondering whether Universal Credit could be changed without going through the parliamentary process/Green paper, white paper etc as some think it can be. I know you said they can't change anything without consultation, is this what you mean? I read PIP can't be changed without green/white papers but UC could ( as well as the assessment criteria.
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The Tories WCA proposals they claimed would go live only about a year after they announced it, I think was announced a few months before election in 2024, and was said would happen during 2025.
They also brought forward the ESA to UC migration at quite short notice.
Historically payment freeze have happened with really short notice but the LCWRA proposals go further than that, its hard to know, Sunak did that temporary UC uplift with very short notice as well.
Government's also seem capable of prioritising law changes they have a more of a vested interest in which can result certain things going through parliament quicker than other things.0 -
The media being so "amazing" are not reporting this good.
So we have the upcoming Green paper which is the planned reform for Welfare
then the Reeves Spring Statement not long after, It was one journalist said in a bluesky post
1st the Greenpaper then the Reeves statement, A forum used by Officials who give out advice to clients they seem not only as confused as us but very angry, the speeding up of migration from ESA/UC was not mentioned, It was just announced by Reeves, So some of these people had given clients advice days earlier only to have to arrange another meeting to update them.
There's a really old Trick when policies are going to be bad, they add on some really bad things, We saw them do this when they froze nearly all Benefits for years, in 2015 it was being reported Osbourne had decided the PIP reforms had not worked and he was going to axe it all together. But this faced such fierce opposition they dropped the idea.
One thing is certain no matter what party when they keep using sick/disabled people in this manner, and now today they drop in the line "those in Genuine need will be protected"
comments like that are for the birds, The Tories made sure all disabled people not matter how badly affected were hammered, It would be nice to think Labour would not be this cruel, but when Starmer rolls out about his late Brother and Mother, Cameron did the same about his son but it didn't stop him going with some of the worst policies we've seen since Thatcher.
When a politician has experience of someone disabled or sick then they should know the huge impact it has on every aspect of that persons life and those who care and love them
but the key difference, Cameron never had to worry about no money nor did Starmer despite him making out he came from a poor background.
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"just wondering whether Universal Credit could be changed without going through the parliamentary process."
Among the proposed or purported welfare reforms/changes, only freezing PIP, which seems to have been dropped very recently due to pressure from revolting MPs, would require a parliamentary vote. Unless MPs revolt and charities stage massive protest, they can put their so-called damn reforms through within months. Consultations, which are in fact for formalities and lip service, take only 12 weeks.
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As for the consultations regarding the LCWRA, it's only on the assessment criteria and format, including the descriptors, provided they do not abolish the assessments. Otherwise, they don't need any consultations on benefit rates, conditionalities and commitments, length of entitlement, frequency of assessment, etc.
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This my worry from today reading bits and pieces god I hope not
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So when we move to uc can they take our lwcra of us reass us
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So i think thier go with this change from September and it is saying you will be reassessed on lwcra when changing to esa
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You are not reassessed when changing from esa. I have filled out all the forms to practice, before I actually do the move over and there is no assessment there. Also no evidence
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No. They won't take our LCWRA award or reassess us. Despite some people making a fuss about this migration, it's hassle free for most people. Those who tell stories about this migration are usually those who've difficulties in providing IDs. Don't worry about the migration.
If you read what they're saying between the lines, their aim is not necessarily taking an award off or reassessing claimants. Their aim is to reduce the financial gap between people on LCWRA and those on Jobseekers' Allowance and push as many claimants on LCWRA as possible into work. How will they achieve this? We'll see it tomorrow.
Keir Starmer, Rachel Reeves, and Liz Kendall have lately been inflicting mental torture on to disabled and ill people. All they care is holding onto their posts.
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Good afternoon,
Not sure if this is relevant to this topic but I have just migrated from ESA support group to Uc. I completed all questions and ID process and to my surprise my first payment for Uc was the basic amount for a single person over 25 of £393 p/m. To me this would mean that my sick component has been left off my claim? I have claimed Esa (support) for numerous years due to a brain tumour and mental health illness where my payment was £636 p/m. My uc claim is all correct with no other factors ie (other benefits and savings) affecting the correct amount I should actually receive. When migrating you are told you will be no worse off monthly than your existing Esa claim, well I will be £243 p/m worse off at this juncture.
It does seem to me that without any journal message, phone call or sms that someone over at Uc has either made an error or that they are possibly stopping or not giving correct payments without an assessment or gathering of more information. I have Sent two journal entries, one standard and one regarding the payment section, four days later no reply.
Has anybody else experienced this when migrating to Uc?
Thank you,
Craig
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