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Thanks - hadn't seen the figures before
Here they are in black and white
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Hi all ,
Can I ask for your opinion please regarding pip review . My award is up next Feb but I haven’t yet received a form . I’m worried this is the dwp extending it so I fall under the new 4 point rule should it pass . Is anyone in same situation? Can anyone offer any advice or their personal opinion on what they would do in regards to leaving it or calling them . Thank you in advance
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If this were me, I would call them and ask them to send me the form.
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I usually get the name of the person who writes on their behalf. So from kemi office it said from Ella on behalf of kemi . From starmers I’ve had from Alastair. This time just from the office. Almost as though they don’t want to put their names to it
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That’s what I was thinking but I’m nervous.
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Well they haven’t considered the impact as they rushing it through without the impact assessments
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they are later sending them out as to what they used to do … i think it used to be roughly 6 months prior to the award ending but now it's 16 weeks i believe …
i had the same issue last year with my wifes assessment.
if your award is up in feb expect it to arrive around oct/nov
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Thanks bton , Wow that’s late . Did they give any reason or is it just back logs do you think ?
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Hi bton, can I ask what are they doing regarding medical evidence. My named GP is not the one I see so I don’t want them contacting him . I usually get my own letter plus medical notes . My Dr said she’ll mention it to my named GP in case . She also said regarding the lifetime awards that run currently she’s never seen anyone at the surgery getting them so what there for she doesn’t know. She also said regarding severe conditions that right now dwp seem to have their own criteria instead of NHS.
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the reason for the lateness of the form is due to the amount new claims (they get priority)and staff that have been assigned to help with the migration to universal credit ….
regarding medical evidence i can't comment on that …. my wife has mental health issues and i always enter the details of her phychiatric nurse if they need to consult on her condition.
my wife had no face to face, but as a precaution i took photos of every page of the assessment. If she has to attend a face to face in future i shall be recording it (you are allowed) …. anything to stop the assessors putting down something which isn't said or done.
good luck
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What worries me is that it could be they have considered the impact and just don't care.
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I am just posting this picture to show yet another government u turn may be on the cards. But if course we don't count as we don't bring in money.
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Thanks very much. I'm wondering if even now the DWP are telling the **** contract assessors to be ruthless even though 18 months away. The lady who did my reassessment was lovely.
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Hi, I've just had my reassessment yet I filled my form in over a year ago, apparently a backlog. It wouldn't surprise me if they did that with some who's award ends nearer Nov next year but if yours is up in Feb I'd give it until Nov Dec before contacting them as lot of time to go until then and you could get it anytime soon.
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From Benefits and Work site
NewsWhat you can still do to challenge the cuts
Published: 17 June 2025
There are probably only two weeks to go until the first vote on Labour’s cuts takes place in the Commons. Labour backbenchers suspected of planning to rebel will be bombarded with threats, bribes and misleading propaganda about the reform plans.
But there are still steps you can take to counter the pressure they are experiencing and also to encourage MPs of all parties to vote against the cuts.
Contact local councillors
This really is worth doing. Cuts will have a very damaging effect on local authority budgets as care services, housing, health services, advice services and education will all be hit and everyone will be worse off as a result. So, it’s an issue councillors really should be raising with their MPs.
Tower Hamlets local authority has called on the government to reverse the cuts, which they estimate will cost them £8.5 million a year.
Two Labour councillors in Cheshire have resigned, in part over the cuts. This is not earth shattering, but will be big news locally and will draw attention to Labour’s plans.
One reader who contacted 58 councillors has heard back from some who say they have contacted the local MP. Our reader has also heard from the MP herself, who says she has been contacted by councillors, after residents raised the issue with them.
There’s more details and a sample email to send to councillors here.
Make your MP aware of these reports
There are an awful lot of facts and figures washing about at the moment. But sometimes knowing who objects to a measure can be as important as why they object. So, please make sure you local MP knows about these reports – you can copy and paste this information if you wish:
Citizens Advice (CA) literally works for the DWP, having had over £20 million from them to run the Help To Claim service. But it hasn’t stopped CA publishing Pathways To Poverty, a searing report on the cuts, which begins: “By refusing to properly consult on its plan to cut billions from disability benefits, the government is choosing not to ask questions it doesn’t want the answers to. The cuts will have a devastating impact on disabled people (and their children), sending hundreds of thousands into poverty, and many more into deeper poverty.”
Money saving expert Martin Lewis is probably the most trusted figure in the UK when it comes to financial issues. So, when his charity produces a report on the planned reforms headed “Lead shoes instead of a life ring”, and says “We strongly urge the government to ditch these plans, which will cause misery and hardship for some of the most vulnerable people in society” you can be sure people will listen.
The Commons All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Poverty and Inequality is hugely dominated by Labour MPs. Yet it has condemned the “sweeping cuts” in a report that argues that “These proposals won’t remove barriers to employment—they will add new ones by stripping people of the income they rely on to survive. “
The Commons work and pensions committee also has a Labour majority, yet their interim report asks for any changes to be delayed and warns that the proposals: “might not incentivise work, as the Government hopes, but rather push people deeper into poverty, worsen health, especially in more deprived areas, and move people further from the labour market, as evidence suggests has happened in the past with similar reforms.”
And then there’s the DWP’s own opinion about its chances of moving disabled people into work. At 4pm on Friday 2 May 2025, on the eve of a bank holiday and on a day when the news was dominated by the results of the local elections, the DWP quietly buried two reports.
In “The Experience of Additional Work Coach Support” the DWP found that more time with a work coach improved mental well being for claimants with mental health issues, but had no effect where physical health conditions were concerned and that “Feeling meaningfully closer to work was an outcome for only a minority of those interviewed.”
“Evaluation of the Employment and Health Discussion” found that employment and health discussions make claimant’s briefly feel more positive, but the solutions they produce don’t work and fail to address may of the barriers to work that disabled claimants actually face. Yet the Green Paper argues that claimants will benefit from “a new support conversation” which will “enable people to get help early, providing access to more rapid and timely support.”
When so many respected organisations cast doubt on the Green Paper proposals, surely it’s time to pause the plans and carry out more research and consultation.
Don’t be fooled
Most importantly of all, don’t listen to Labour claims that the rebellion has collapsed, that’s just them trying to make their own backbenchers feel isolated and scared. Instead, keep encouraging claimants to contact their MPs and also offer your own words of support to those MPs brave enough to openly declare they will not vote for Labour’s cuts.
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/what-you-can-still-do-to-challenge-the-cuts
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Also be aware that waiting could mean a harsher assessment but doing it now could also backfire on people with two year awards the final comment passedmeby
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Just watched the latest propaganda video from DWP on DisabilitywithSteve on YouTube, shows a lot of disabled people giving motivational messages while saying how Job Centres are lovely places for disabled people to visit. None of those people in the video looked to be in pain, they all appear to have no problem doing a full days work, there’s even a fluffy guide dog.
I think they are deliberately doing this to wind us up.When I get made homeless I will somehow get to local jobcentre and ask one of the delightful work coaches to pitch my tent outside the Jobcentre seeing what a wonderful places they are.
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Yes that’s also what I thought . It’s hard to know but I’ll wait .
Well if I get a nasty assessor I’ll tell her straight “ this isn’t a comedy show you know. “. 😂
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