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Yet anyone can become sick or disabled, people forget that
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people in general like to have a group they can scapegoat, if it’s not the migrants it’s the disabled. Makes them feel better about their lives to know there are people worse off and more vulnerable who are easy targets. It’s human nature I’m afraid. Where would we be now with Corbyn as Prime minister, A lot better off I reckon, if only.
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The more I read the more I think I'm doomed 😔
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You know what aswell , and I cannot believe I would ever be saying this but..... I think I hate starmer more than Johnson 🤔 tough one though , I despise Johnson and everything he stands for but starmer is running him extremely close ..... Forgetting welfare for a second , Liz Kendall for me is one of the most aggressive , unlikeble, nasty politicians I think I've ever come across , she is vile , and I don't use that term lightly
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I don’t think any politician would be as bad as Starmer and Kendall . They’re pure evil. Others I think would have u turned by now. But Starmer and Kendall have a hatred that they can’t hide .
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As they say, "Speak of the devil and he shall appear".
I've been enquiring to you about the migration from ESA to UC since this morning.
Guess what - about 2 hours ago, I popped out to go to my local ASDA and on my way out I had checked my letterbox! The dreaded brown enveloppe inviting me to migrate by 13th Sept. was sitting in it!
I'm so sorry to ask you the following awful lot of questions:
- Is it better to wait and apply just before the deadline, or as soon as I can, as I would get additional £173 on UC compared to the amount I currently get while on ESA?
- While filling in the form, will I need to upload documents, such as ID, rent statement, etc
- Is driving licence enough for ID verification, as I don't want them to have my passport details.
- If I want them to pay my rent directly to my housing association, what should I do. Do I mention it in the same application form or will I need to fill in another one. Do they accept it straightaway or will they ask me to show that I'm on rent arrears or have certain mental health issues, etc?
- Can I ask them to pay me fortnightly instead of monthly?
Thank you very much for your time.
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@Passerby I’m going through migration to UC at the moment and so far it’s been ok.
- I applied quite quickly once I got my letter - just because having it sit at home glaring at me would stress me out. I chose to get it over with. You’re best submitting your form the day after your ESA payment. I worked out dates from that which fitted into getting my meds in the 2 week run on of ESA. It left me 4 possible dates.
- I didn’t have to upload anything when I filled the form in. I filled the form in with help from CAB help to claim webchat but then waited a couple of days before I pressed submit. The form is quite simple - I just got stuck on a couple of things.
- A driving licence won’t allow you to verify your ID online. The options for that are extremely limited. I added a note to my journal as soon as I got access to it requesting a biographical phone call to verify I’m me and they were fine with that but I still had to pop into the jobcentre reception with my bank card to verify that.
- 4/5 I also added a note to my journal requesting alternative payments - rent direct to landlord and to be paid twice a month. The person who did my biographical phone call asked me if I’d like to do these and requested them for me. They also gave me my payment dates and made sure I knew how to access the advance if I needed to.
Everyone I’ve spoken to has been lovely
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i would say all these questions have been answered time and time again this thread is more like a comedy show at the moment i am sorry to say
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Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
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hi passerby ,
omg we jinxed you 😩. First I would say don’t get stressed out as it’s not as bad as I’d been told years ago and I’ve missed out on the extra money all this time as I don’t get SDP.
I applied straight away as it was more money basically. So you will get one last payment of esa which for me was two weeks . So you only go without money for the other 3 weeks. I applied a couple of days early so I had the over lap of housing benefits which has caused a slight issue . I should of applied on the day my esa came in so it would be two weeks later exactly if that makes sense .I filled out my form online but a couple of questions confused me so I called uc . They put me through to CAB but I didn’t want to wait online. I google cab help to claim and did live chat . I asked if I could speak over the phone and they called straight back. They went through everything with me . I think I had the option to download my ID and was asked for passport and drivers license but I don’t have either so I don’t know if you can use just one or the other. I was given an interview appointment at the job centre but I left a message in the journal and asked for a phone appointment for a biographical id. They agreed and called me on my appointment time instead. Nice lady called and asked a few questions such as other benefits I’m on , roughly how I get , who lives with me . Nothing I couldn’t answer thankfully cos of my brain fog . I asked to have my rent paid directly as I said I have brain fog and don’t want the responsibility which was fine . Then I asked for fortnightly payments which was also fine.
So far I haven’t been asked for bank statements etc , not yet anyway.
They told me when I’d get my first payment.
You then have to contact you landlord and they have to send a uc47 to uc. When I called they’d already heard from uc no problem.If you’re on esa support group write a message in your journal telling them you are in support group . They were already aware but I did that just in case. So far apart from my housing benefits messing up a bit it’s gone smoothly. And according to cab it’s my council that’s at fault not uc .
If you call cab and they help you they help you until you get your first payment so you can still call if you think there’s a problem. I just made the mistake of applying a few days too soon .CAB 0800 144 8444
Online can help to claim
Don’t worry though it was nothing like I imagined with all the horror stories I’d read .
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FYI, everybody can imagine that these questions have been answered several times at several places, but this doesn't mean that such places are saved on everybody's mind.
If you find this thread a comedy show, you should at least be happy and grateful, as no one is asking you to pay for it. Needless to add that you still have the option to stay clear of it.
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sometimes we need different people’s experiences to reassure us . I’m the same especially when you hear horror stories about migrating over . I wish I had years ago now as I’ve missed out all this time
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Hope all goes smoothly passerby ( as I’m sure it will). Feel free to ask anything else if you need to though cab we’re very good 👍
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Absolutely! We need different people's experiences.
In addition, if he thinks that we're discussing Disney Walt, for his information, ESA migration is part of the Green Paper.
Thank you so much for your input, by the way.
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I will.
Thank you once more.
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No problem at all . All this is scary , in fact when I first called uc a nice young girl said to me don’t worry it’s easy as I’ve been on uc myself and I know what it’s like to not like change . I hate things changing but I think it’s a smooth experience now . We are all worried right now so no need for people to be rude , just scroll past . Let us know how you get on x
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It fill’s me with dread all these reforms that are going on. The targeting of the disabled and elderly by Labour and Rachel Reeves is just a breech of our human rights, it negatively impacts our way of life, our will to live an independent life and above all else is just a sign of another government, looking after the rich while trampling on the poor, working class and backbone of the country.
I’ll say it brutally and honestly…
I’m working class through and through, worked both in the private and public sector as a Gardener & Estate Ranger, alongside working as a Support Worker for just over 20 years. I put in the graft where my national insurance and tax was hard earned both mentally and physically. My last job I put both my mind and body on the line. But almost five years ago, My mind and body cried enough is enough! Over the next five years I went down a very deep and dark rabbit hole 🐇 with my mental health, something I’ve battled since early childhood, alongside this my body said enough was enough with me being diagnosed with early onset osteoarthritis in both hips, arthritis in my back all to go alongside both shoulders. Alongside this my old lungs 🫁 said here you go have a dose of Asthma, then my loving wife gave me long covid and that turned into Long Covid. But like I have done since my first breath, I have just been resilient, fought tooth and nail against every obstacle and challenge placed in my way. In the past 15 years, I’ve lost four loved ones I was close to and never got to say my goodbyes to, I’ve cut out all contact with all of my family for the goodness of my health, I’ve been through two very hard and brutal relationships and marriages, I’ve cut all ties with friends as I got fed up with being the only one to make an effort to contact them, some have distanced themselves from me by taking my ex wife’s side of things and now every day, I live a lonely and pointless existence. My life has no value to it or purpose, I’ve started to pay for a non attendance cremation, I’ve sent my two nieces items I had inherited from my Grandfathers, I’ve filed for divorce from ex wife no2, I’ve donated all of my hiking and camping gear to a local grammar school, it’s like I’m getting my affairs in order and just letting go of who I once was.
My mental health is shot to pieces, I’ve become almost agoraphobic as I have only left my flat once since the end of February, I don’t want to talk to my neighbours as I now find people to judgemental and opinionated. I’m scared to go out or be seen in public. I’ve been on the waiting lists for both counselling and a social prescriber for eight months, My mental health team have me on the waiting list for psychology, I refuse to ring the emergency line in crisis as I just find it so condescending at times,I don’t find they help.
Up until 2020 I was on two medications a day, now I have to set an alarm four times a day to remind me to take all of this 😔 most of this is just for one week alone!
I think in all honesty I’m just counting down the days until I finally don’t wake up, however many days, weeks, months or years I have left.
I just have to accept the reason I am alone, is due to the poor choices, being unable to control my emotions or behavior, that I’ve left so many scarred people in my wake alongside many many many bad memories of me.
ive accepted that I’m not a good person, that so don’t like how I look, my body is just obese and ugly, I have never made peace with my mental and physical disabilities and probably never will. I guess someone like me didn’t deserve to survive being born in 1983 when so many other premature baby’s deserved to live but didn’t.1 -
Catherine when you receive replies from MPs obviously from their staff but do you usually get a name at the bottom ? I usually do yet the email from starmers office today simply said office of Rt hon sir Keir starmer. It seems strange the assistant didn’t give their name .
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You're changing your tune now, you likened him to Blair and that is what I objected to. He isn't as left wing as Jeremy Corbyn or John McDonell, but right of centre.
No, he hasn't spoken out as much as i would like.
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