Means-testing PIP

Zipz

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1063979#Comment_1063979

Your AI tool is quite simply wrong about PIP ( in its present form). PIP/DLA/AA have nothing to do with income/ assets. Some of us (including me) would be in wretched states were PIP to be means-tested like UC. I am not entitled to means-tested benefits yet am very poorly off.

WhatThe

PIP is a ''poverty handout'' from the government… like all other welfare benefits. There's no shame in claiming welfare benefits, is there?

Zipz

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1063993#Comment_1063993

Of course not. I've spent most of my life on benefits having been severely physically disabled since childhood. But it troubles me to hear PIP being related to poverty when it is riggtly unrelated to income or assets. Moreover, from where does the term "Poverty Handout" derive? I don't think it's DWP-Speak. I doesn't even sound like the right-wing gutter press.

WhatThe

"Moreover, from where does the term "Poverty Handout" derive? I don't think it's DWP-Speak. I doesn't even sound like the right-wing gutter press."

MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,464 Championing2:46PM edited 2:48PM

PIP isn’t a poverty handout.

luvpink

Oh not this rearing its ugly head again.

MW123

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1063996#Comment_1063996

I used the phrase “PIP is not a poverty handout” specifically in contrast to Yadnad’s claim that wealthy people shouldn’t be claiming PIP. I was rejecting the assumption that PIP is some kind of charity payment, unfairly claimed by the wealthy.

PIP exists rightly to recognise disability-related costs, regardless of income or status. The award is based on how disability affects daily life, not on someone’s earnings or assets.

Disability doesn’t discriminate, but public opinion often does. PIP must stay rooted in functional need, not lifestyle optics or moral arithmetic.

Zipz

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1064084#Comment_1064084

Thank you.

WhatThe

luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,822 Championing9:01AM

Oh not this rearing its ugly head again

"Poverty handout" is a very ugly term to bring to the forum, yes!

luvpink

This subject has been brought up few times before and it causes anxiety and division.

The government ruled out means testing and I hope it remains that way for the sake of us who would be affected if it ever happened.