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Catherine21
Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

I cannot believe we are all been put through this I find it extremely difficult and soul destroying tbh never have I felt so oppressed and I've been through alot since labours got in I just feel extreme sadness and darkness never to be forgiven

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  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,089 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @Catherine21 you've done amazing work so far in all you've done contacting MP's and inspiring others. It's been a very emotionally intense time over the past few weeks but so much has been achieved with the U-turns so don't forget to celebrate the wins too. Remember to take a little break to look after you. I've certainly had to. 💛

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    I've recieved seven replys from mps saying they welcome the changes seems the whole mood has changed and they seem content it's been horrid hasn't it I keep emailing but tbh seems a done deal all mps focusing on pip after Wednesday probley crash and burn I hope your OK

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,089 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I know it doesn't resolve everything, but we've still got this Timms review and there are a lot of eyes on what they plan to introduce so I'd like to think they'll be more cautious now. I'll probably be shouting at my TV Wednesday again 🙈

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    I won't watch who's the speaker going to be does anyone know

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,089 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I'm not sure to be honest @Catherine21. I completely understand why you're not watching. I'll be shouting at the TV for us both lol.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    Xx

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,565 Championing

    @Catherine21 The Deputy Speakers do not select ammendments. Irrespective of who is in the Chair, decisions on ammendments are made by the Speaker. The Chair is directed to those MPs who want to "catch the Speaker's eye" by senior officials of the House, who stand either side of the Chair.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    Shows you how clueless I am been emailing Mr hoyle I wish I was oblivious to this should have stopped when sunak made speech this is consuming me can't sleep to forget it all hope your OK

  • Leelitsa
    Leelitsa Online Community Member Posts: 25 Connected

    @Catherine21 Hi,

    I feel that Labour did put us all through unnecessary worry and it was distressing at times for me, because of the uncertainty for one whole year. So I do totally get it.


    However, what we have achieved is definitely a better outcome with the Green Paper amendments/changes, because it could’ve been worse with Conservatives in power!

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 2,565 Championing

    As I recall, you emailed the Speaker to ask that he select the reasoned ammendment. The Speaker is only human, he consumes media like tge rest of us so you weren't "clueless". However, his decision regarding the selection of ammendment is his prerogative. He might discuss it with his Office team, including the deputies but it remains his prerogative.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    OK thankyou I needed that but I still prey they bin it but they won't can I ask pls what parts do you think are good I haven't read it I'm clueless thankyou

  • Leelitsa
    Leelitsa Online Community Member Posts: 25 Connected

    @Catherine21

    Hi,

    Below are a selection of the amendments. 

    4-point rule

    Government amendment (Gov 4) removes clause 5 – the PIP 4 point rule – from the bill.  If this is accepted (which it will be) it will be the end of the 4-point rule, unless it is resurrected in the Timms review which seems unlikely.

    UC freeze

    A new clause put forward by the government (Gov NC1) provides for the freeze to the universal health element not to apply to existing claimant, people who meet the severe conditions criteria and terminally ill patients.  This was one of the government’s earlier concessions to the rebels.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    Apparently timms has already written report shock horror all is not well with this uc bill wish it was I prey today goes our way

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 290 Empowering

    We knew it would already be done Catherine, we know how this goes unfortunately, but we still have our voices and you have been one of the loudest, you are a star in my book 😊Lets just see how it goes today, I really hope it shows what a S show all of them really are 🤣 I can see it being absolute chaos.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    OOh I think theu been drilled on it they will act on best behaviour I hope the UN letter rings in thier mind I sent that to loads mps last night pls Lord 🙏 give us a break x

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,089 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I think there may be some confusion @Catherine21 as the Timms review is not complete. It's not a quick process and they've promised to do this with the disabled community by August 2026.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    OOh The debate today the bill I'm watching now with hardly anyone in parliament??? Am I lost somewhere I thought today was voting on uc bill

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 3,089 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    The debate today is about the bill. Part of the bill proposal now is (because of the U-turn), that Timms will do a review. It's not been started yet. In fact earlier, an MP was asking for better understanding of exactly what the core aims of this review is. What are they focusing on to achieve so it's not yet started.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,202 Championing

    I'm confused I thought they had to decide later over universal credit