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PIP daily living

alasalaamaa

Recently a DWP decision maker contacted me and asked me about my daily living and how my PTSD and dental issues are affecting me, after I have appealed to the FTT. She said she might be able to change the decision and will discuss things with my representative from Centre 70. The DWP then sent a written report and they said the pain I am feeling when brushing my teeth is out of the context in the Washing and bathing activity. Not brushing your teeth in washing and bathing will give you poor oral health. So why the DWP does not take into consideration about this in this activity. Also, I wear prosthetic dentures which is an aid. So without it I can't eat or talk properly.

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alasalaamaa

The decision maker who contacted me spoke about my 1st application on 02/02/2021 and maybe if she changes the decision, my award for the standard rate for PIP will be backdated.

Albus_Alumni

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you @alasalaamaa hopefully they can get the award changed in your favour.

rubin16

I've never heard of anyone claiming pip because of dental pain tbh, I never thought anyone would actually claim pip for it. But I guess I was wrong and this forum amazes me at times. anyway I also agree that your use of the descriptors is out of context.

I think I might try get a higher award myself for wearing glasses, surely this is an aid as without it I can't see anything.

alasalaamaa

Brushing your teeth is part of the washing and bathing activity. Not brushing your teeth regularly will cause bad breath and gum diseases and this is poor hygiene. When I wash I have to brush my mouth by taking out my dentures and clean them. I have lost most of my front and back teeths so when brushing my mouth I feel pain in my gum, the soft tissues. False teeths are prosthetic and are aid in eating and talking. PIP failed to take into account about these

alasalaamaa

No, whence you have lost teeths in your mouth, you will find it difficult to eat, brushing your mouth or even talking. So you will have to get false teeths to be able to do this. You have to be aware of good oral hygiene.

alasalaamaa

Albus_Alumni

@alasalaamaa PIP is given on the extent to which your condition or disability affects your ability to perform daily living and mobility activities, so I don't think gum pain would see any kind of award I'm afraid, even if dentures are involved.

alasalaamaa

No, not taking care of your appearance makes you a dirty person. So dental issues for inability to brush your teeth properly should be taken into account in the washing and bathing activity Also having a false teeth is an aid in eating and talking. PIP knows that false teeth is a prosthetic which is an aid.

alasalaamaa

I don't give up, the PIP system is not correctly managed. Assessments should be done by Medical practitioners and Psychologist soecialising in the conditions affecting your daily living and mobility, not nurses.

Albus_Alumni

Could you explain to them how it affects your daily life @alasalaamaa? And which descriptors you think you should get points for?

You may get some points, but I'm not sure if that alone would be enough points to claim the daily living component of PIP.

alasalaamaa

I will get 2 points each on the daily living activities like taking nutrition, washing and bathing, communicating verbally, reading signs, symbols and words, and also engaging to unfamiliar people face-to-face, this is because I have dental issues which makes me to use false teeth which is a prosthetic aid.

Albus_Alumni

Unfortunately, I don't think the DWP will award any points for gum pain when brushing your teeth @alasalaamaa as you're not using any appliances whilst doing so. I know it's not the answer you're looking for, but looking through the descriptors, criteria, and various other forums, that's the answer that keeps coming up. But I do wish you all the best with your claim though. 😊

Zipz

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1068479#Comment_1068479

Please keep us updated on the progress of your claim. Look after yourself.

alasalaamaa

Can you wash and bathe without brushing your teeth. Now that I have lost teeths and my gum is bare and has become tender so I have to brush it slowly now and not hard like before.

alasalaamaa

Okay, thanks

alasalaamaa

Zipz

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1068492#Comment_1068492

It is certainly important to maintain good oral hygiene for our general wellbeing.

Zipz

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1068485#Comment_1068485

If the OP is using an electric toothbrush might they not need very soft heads? The absolutely right brush/ heads might cost a little cost a little above the norm for an everyday appliance.

onlymeagain

I've never considered this as part of washing but I guess it is. However I am also confused why they don't include drying in with washing and bathing as that is essential too.