Uc - has anyone seen a claimant taking DWP to tribunal over statements?
I caught a video and it was stating a claimant took dwp to tribunal over uc bank account statements and it went in favour of the claimant tried to fimd imformation on this anyone clued up can you find the information was taken to upper tribunal this year ??
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I don't think I've seen anything about this anywhere @Catherine21. Do you remember where you watched the video?
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All the twisting and turning over providing bank statements, it just looks mighty suspicious. Why not just cooperate?
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Exactly! To me anyone bothered about providing their statements are trying to hide something!
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Is this the article you were looking for @Catherine21??? 💜
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You tube justice journel lady
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Oh thankyou kiki hope your well x
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My view is if one meets the criteria for 'benefits' that should be an end to the matter.
Able bodied people would rightly be up in arms if employers demanded access to their employees bank accounts to see how they spent their salary so why should disabled people suffer the indignity of having to show how they spend their benefits because if one meets the criteria for benefits how those benefits are then spent really should be up to the individual.
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Because kicking up a stink looks suspicious?
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I accept being on means tested benefits I have to go by the rules, or lose my way of paying rent & topping up other benefits.
However it's humiliating having to expose private information by handing over bank statements to a faceless DWP employee.
When I'm not suspected of fraud.
It's humiliating being questioned on my spending £12pm on a window cleaner, £25 birthday gift to a parent and really stupid questions about money I pay to water & energy companies (both of which have names containing water & energy).
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You don’t value your privacy?
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I value my privacy & I think it's disgusting & humiliating that we have to send copies of our bank account statements to total strangers & not knowing how long they are kept, but, those are the rules as it stands. Personally, I am not up to trying to fight it.
It is totally different to an employer trying to do that to employees. We are on government handouts & fraud is committed by some lowlife individuals & foreign mobs, just a shame because of that, we have to jump through the hoops to prove we are not living the high life.
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Whether i do or don't, what am I going to do about it, withdraw my labour; you see the problem we have?
Just as Kimi said above, we have to go by the rules, or and I am saying this, or we look for another source of income.
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@Catherine21, the video isn’t about bank statements at all.
During Covid, millions claimed UC under the ‘Trust and Protect’ system, where full identity checks weren’t done. The claimant in the link only claimed during that Covid period.
Afterwards, the DWP asked him to provide ID for that old claim and said they would recover all the UC if he didn’t. He took it to the Upper Tribunal, and the judge ruled in his favour, saying that not providing ID later wasn’t enough on its own for the DWP to revise the original award.
I’ve checked Tribunal decisions and there isn’t a case where anyone has successfully challenged being asked for bank statements. Providing them is a legal requirement. That’s why the DWP ask for statements and sometimes question certain transactions. It’s the standard process for means‑tested benefits, not an accusation of doing anything wrong.
You can spend your money however you like as long as you stay within the savings limits for entitlement.
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I would of thought the money saved on finding out these people stealing public money far outways a little bit of dwp prying if everybody was honest there would be no need for it you only need to check to see how much is lost per year to fraud and error
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You'd be better off not watching these youtube videos, they're just click bait.
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I personally disagree that it's a little bit of DWP prying.
We are talking a minimum of 4 months unredacted bank statements being scrutinised, and being asked questions about monthly payments of £12, or payments to Octopus Energy 🙄
Some people get repeat reviews even when there have been no issue with the previous reviews ie no change in UC payment.
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And I do respect yours and others like you views but until the ones who are fraudulently claiming it will not stop
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PIP fraud is so low statistically that it's considered non existent, doesn't stop successive Government ministers making absolutely rubbish & false statements to the press in an attempt to justify the cuts they are seeking to make.
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The bank reviews are for means tested claims I don't believe claiming pip only falls in that group
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My response was meant to show using fraud as a justification for the reviews doesn't actually mean it's true.
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