Is starting work a change of circumstances for PIP
I thought you did not have to declare if you start, end or change jobs on PIP as long as your job does not contradict your claim needs but I have seen PIP mentioned on the right to try work policy and I am confused!
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Hi @TiredMother, it doesn't specify this on the Gov website but as you've said, if there's a change in needs or circumstance, they do need to be made aware. Is it the access to work policy? Sorry if I've misread.
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Thank you.
It won't let me link as I have not posted for long enough but it is the new right to try work policy without reassessment that comes into policy on the 30th April.
It mentions PIP but citizens advice states you do not need to declare work unless it is a contradiction of your health needs so I was confused.
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You don’t have to report starting, ending or changing a job to PIP. PIP isn’t based on your employment status, it’s based on how your health condition affects you day to day. The only time work becomes relevant is if the type of work you are doing directly contradicts the difficulties you have said you have.
The “right to try work” policy you have seen is about Universal Credit and ESA, not PIP. It doesn’t change the PIP rules. So if your needs stay the same, your PIP award isn’t affected just because you start or stop a job.
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u can work certain hours does it affects other jobs as well
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If you started work as a window cleaner, but are claiming you can't walk 20 meters, that would be a problem. The number of hours worked isn't the problem, as far as I know.
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What's the job? Then you'll know if it contradicts what you're claiming for.
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It is not me it is a relative.
Relative has autism and a learning disability. They have points for needing support to mix with others (not the maximum) They work 3 hours a week in a charity that supports autistic and learning disabled young people. So they have support at work and also scripting/social support from two outside agencies who specialise in social support basically.
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Thank you.
The gov.uk specifically mentions PIP below and that is why I was confused. I can only assume it means those who have said they cannot work at all who want to try.
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Sorry it didn't include the quote.
The info on the Gov page that also mentions PIP is below.
The landmark legislation – coming into force at the end of April – means entering employment will not automatically trigger benefit reassessment for claimants on new-style Employment and Support Allowance, Personal Independence Payment, and Universal Credit health element.
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Thank you for raising this @TiredMother. I wish I could find the actual legislation rather than the public press release because it is worrying that as you say, the release mentions PIP specifically.
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I have found the DWP press release you are referring to.
PIP is referenced in the new policy solely to reassure claimants that starting employment will not automatically trigger a reassessment for PIP or the UC health element for anyone receiving either or both benefits.
This announcement does not alter any existing PIP regulations. PIP remains available to people both in and out of work, it is not means tested, and PIP claimants are not required to notify the DWP when they start or stop work.
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Thank you. That is reassuring!
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No thank you. It really does help when members share things like this because it makes all of us stop and double check. I receive PIP and I work, and when I first saw that wording I had a moment of “have I missed something”. I certainly haven’t had a letter, and let’s be honest, the DWP are not the best communicators.
So I’m genuinely glad you brought it up. Once you look at the detail nothing has changed for PIP at all, but it’s completely understandable that the wording caused confusion. It isn’t exactly crystal clear.
I also want to say that I hope your relative gets on well in their job. It’s really encouraging to hear about organisations that properly support autistic people with learning difficulties to get a feel for working and to feel part of something. I wish them the very best.
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The biggest problem is getting past blatant discrimination to get a job in the ruddy first place.
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