As a society, are we getting more suspicious/ less tolerant of others

WelshBlue
WelshBlue Community Member Posts: 1,423 Championing

I've been thinking about this since the other day.

In a queue, in a shop chatting away to a lil' kid and his mother says, " You've made a friend, he's usually shy "

Innocently I replied " Kids like me and I like kids"

I swear it was like being in a vacuum. Heads turning to look at me and the cashier saying, "Did that sound better in your head"

My reply … "Not really. Anyone wanting to read anything bad into it has issues, not me"

And it got me thinking. How people are more scared to talk to kids, how many people sigh because an elderly or disabled person is holding up a queue … yet they don't sigh at a younger abled person

Has anyone else noticed how as a Society we're getting more suspicious of totally innocent things. Seeing more people as an inconvenience rather than a person who's struggling

And yes I like kids. They don't stare at my scars, they may look and they may ask how I got them, but to them it makes no dfference as to who I am

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  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 4,870 Championing
    edited May 8

    Society is getting more suspicious and less tolerant of others. @WelshBlue

    Children are a lot more accepting of people who might look different or are in a wheelchair. My daughter used a wheel chair and had an oxygen mask and although a child might look and ask questions they never stared.

    Whereas adults would stare and mutter that they were being held up, or try and push passed to get in front of us. Almost as if there time was more important that ours.

    We seem stuck in a world where every issue is black and white, and anyone that disagrees is instantly seen as the enemy.

    A bit more patience and empathy would go a long way to a more understanding, less judgemental society.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 1,412 Trailblazing
    edited May 9

    I had some woman lay hands on me and start praying! 🙏🙄

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,415 Championing

    Where did she get the hands from😂😂🖐️

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,158 Connected

    I'd have sent for the Police and had her charged with assault.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,158 Connected

    I get called from a Pig to a Dog both online and in person purely because I don't work 60 hours a week for almost no money after tax like some people do.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,158 Connected

    The whole "thing" of Autism's lack of empathy allegedly, which is a complete myth.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,383 Championing

    Remember those old Captain Birdseye (Arrr, me mateys!) adverts where he was on his ship full of little kids? Just wouldn't fly today. Yes, society is definitely more suspicious.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,158 Connected
    edited May 9

    One of the biggest issues is the blatant racism of the right, hence the rise of the likes of Reform UK, their whole platform is anti-immigration even though Nigel [Removed by moderator] Parents were immigrants themselves.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 1,412 Trailblazing

    The police? She touched my arm, not stole my wallet!

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 4,870 Championing

    I have not mentioned racism or Reform in my post!!

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    We understand that politics is an emotional topic, but we can please remember to be civil and avoid using inflammatory language.

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  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community Member Posts: 1,423 Championing

    I shouldn't laugh, but …

    This is my case in point I guess. How many people don't see an actual person anymore. Only what's in front of them. In her mind she may have thought she was doing good. If only it was that easy eh

    Not all, but seems to be a larger percentage. Not so long back, I remember seeing a young teenage girl in a shop. Headphones on and looking quite stressed, holding her Dad's hand … the amount of people who crowded past her knocking her, instead of giving priority or her her space. Was getting to the end of the aisle quickly so important. I guess it was to them

    @Bluebell21 … you've put it far more eloquently and concise than I can. Exactly your words

    @Ross1975 … I always thought there was something fishy about that guy 🤔But joking aside, you're right. There would be all sort of public reaction … and for what. Something innocent and innocuous

    @Becker … is it because people are scared of what they're ignorant about ? For someone to actively move their kids away, not only hurtful to you, but it's stunting a kids growth for empathy/ understanding. I sometimes joke I don't like people. The older I'm getting and the more I see of human nature … I'm not sure it's a joke anymore

    @SheffieldMan1976 … that is just downright rude and cruel. I've worked the 7 days a week 12 hours a day conveyor belt … getting through the days now as a disabled person is far more difficult. And tiring. What people don't understand is … you wouldn't be getting any help if you weren't entitled. You seem like a great bloke, don't let those who don't know you make you second guess yourself

    My trouble is I sometimes put myself in situations

    An example in Cardiff at Christmas. Going for breakfast, people left me behind because my legs and hips were really hurting.

    I noticed a woman at a bus stop pulling her 2 little kids to her, under her Jihab and I'm thinking that's a bit extreme. I may dress like a skinhead and look scary but c'mon

    Then I took a look at myself, swivelling my hips, and the little voice in my head said, "Ooooh that doesn't look good … "

  • MegaAlone
    MegaAlone Community Member Posts: 24 Connected

    @WelshBlue thank you for posting and starting off what I think is a good and important conversation. I do think you are right and whoever thinks ill of your statement has got issues themselves.

    I think if people don't speak to each other including kids then they don't benefit from knowledge and advocacy. I don't have kids but I was speaking to a kid who lives near me and she was worried about being someone who goes to prison. She's 11 and some other poison has got her worrying about this rather than living her life and learning something new everyday.

    Also, there is a lot of speculation of who are criminals rather than action taken to stop criminals. Lots of noise and little substance. A community that works together is one that hears each other and prospers together.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,040 Championing
    As a society, are we getting more suspicious/ less tolerant of others?

    Since Brexit without a doubt.

    The violent protests within weeks of Labour taking office reflected immense intolerance.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,085 Championing
    edited May 10

    It has got really extreme, even to the point I had an autism assessor acting like it. My family I also suspect didnt fully believe me until the past year, after my sister's were given permission to talk to my GP, and everyone else, and one has attended all my appointments, my family are now fully behind me as they have been witnessing the NHS the way they treat and judge me first hand. Previously they couldnt understand why I wasnt getting anywhere, which was different to their own experiences.

    Some examples.

    When my dad wheel chaired me into a hospital some years back, he left to get a drink, then a nurse comes up to me and asks why I am in a wheelchair, she was about to try and bully me out of it, when my dad came back to save the day. She couldnt run away fast enough once she realised I wasnt alone.

    I was in eye casualty about 15 years ago, when I had severe eye problems, and had to sit with my eyes shut, after a few hours wait, my sister appears next to me and asks why I am sitting alone, it turns out the waiting room was now empty and even the receptionist gone, but the doctor was still in his room, she said a few things to him, and then he seen me, but it was not done seriously, like he just went through the motions because my sister forced him to.

    Another occasion on a friday night, easter weekend, I went to out of hours GP with massive head pains, the GP then sent me to A&E which was the next room, after about 8 hours wait I made it into majors, and the doctors to be fair were trying, I had a couple of head scans done. But then a ward manager showed up around 6am, and shouted in front of the whole room, send him home with paracetamol. I had obviously already taken paracetamol. The first doctor refused to do it, which I appreciated but the second discharged me. The consultant dealing with the complaint claimed she got disciplined and I should have been admitted for observation, but no written proof was sent to me on her disciplinary.

    I had a neurologist who did the hammer test on my knee, which didnt move at all, a letter given to her from OT of my neurological symptoms, as well as me explaining all my neurological symptoms, only to end the appointment saying "I am discharging you as you have no neurological symptoms".

    To me these issues of people being judged have existed in the NHS for years, but what has changed in recent years, particularly since Brexit, is it has become much more apparent in the general population, and its gone up a level in the NHS. I have found NHS staff (and adult social care) e.g. have got used to just refusing to respond to questions which would need them to explain their actions, a large increase in discharges/referral refusals without an initial appointment, and even some outright aggression like at my autism assessment.

    I am convinced there is a marker on my file, labelling me as a fraud or something. As I have had these type of experiences across so many people now. The only one good person I had was my GP I had about 10 years ago but she has now retired.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,158 Connected

    That's beside the point innit? It's still unwarranted physical contact.

  • JulieTuesday
    JulieTuesday Community Member Posts: 66 Contributor

    I agree with the original poster. I am older person and on the rare occasion I go out I have to use a walker as my balance is not at all good, so yes I am a bit slow. I get a feeling the younger generation are really beginning to dislike and disrespect older people, I heard my postman say ' OK for the oldies who get a pension, it went up yesterday what have they got to worry about.' Also just a feeling that the newer generation who are struggling I know, but they seem to not be friendly anymore. It isn't me feeling this I'm certain and I know I suffer with depression, I'm sure it's true. I am immunosuppressed so don't go to many places and now because of the angst I fear from society toward older people I'm more inclined to stay at home. I did work most of my life and I worked very hard, now I can't and I find society daunting. I would be afraid to talk to children I don't know, but I do always smile. We live in horrid times.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 3,158 Connected

    Violent protests created by complete idiots who officially need to shut up.

    Protest by all means, but don't get violent in the flippin' process.

  • ilovepink97
    ilovepink97 Community Member Posts: 58 Connected

    I’m really sorry that the person said something so terrible to u

    U didn’t say anything wrong and u were being really kind!
    im so sorry this happened if anything the person that said that seems like the idiot

  • WelshBlue
    WelshBlue Community Member Posts: 1,423 Championing
    edited May 20

    Glad but very sad it's just not me noticing the decline. Some people really need to walk in the shoes of others (figuratively … )

    A new low on the stain of humanity today …

    Speaking to my daughter on the phone … she's been reported to her ambulance trust …

    Called to a cardiac arrest at a bus station, and a bus driver took exception to the response car blocking 'his' stand whilst they were working on the patient … she sort of said something she shouldn't … ending in off … 1. maybe a better choice of words, but difficult when you're chest deep in a patient ? 2. are we really living in a world where bus times are more important than saving a life ? 3. Are we really offended because someone stressed uses a hurty word ?