New parent disabled child - advice pls

RandallC
RandallC Community Member Posts: 8 Listener

I’m a mum to a one year old girl Elsie

She has an ultra rare neuro condition and spent first 8 months of her life in hospital. We came home 3 months ago, via a hospice as we didn’t think she’d make it, and she’s thriving. She’ll have challenges but she is also developing and we are more hopeful.

We came home with a care package funded by NHS in Sussex region. You can’t leave carer unattended unless someone with PR is present (parental responsibility). I’ve carefully put together a list of family and close friends who can do this as well as a child minder to cover me working 3 days a week. I’m not in a position to give this up. This is all alongside a trained carer to take care of Elsie’s needs until others can learn them better. This will take time. We even have secured a nursery space reliant on Elsie attending with carer for now.

But now the Sussex healthcare provider managed by the ICB is saying people with PR need medical training (despite being with a carer). This is impossible, it creates more obstacles, makes planning any kind of new normal after 8 months in hospital hugely challenging and seems to imply care package relies on me giving up work

This doesn’t feel right

Im at point considering legal advice

Can anyone share own experiences?
or advice thank you 🙏

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  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 4,856 Championing
  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 8,935 Online Community Team

    Hi @RandallC, welcome to the community. It's brilliant that you've managed to get Elsie home, but I'm sorry to hear about all the complications in her ongoing care. That's so frustrating after all you've been through. I will tag our children and family specialist @Mary_Scope as she may have some helpful advice to share after the weekend.

    You might also like to chat to Contact: https://contact.org.uk/help-for-families/information-advice-services/our-helpline/

    They have an advice helpline if that's useful to you. But I hope some of our members might be able to share some experiences soon too ☺️

  • RandallC
    RandallC Community Member Posts: 8 Listener

    thank you so much to all who have replied so far - just finding this community alone has made a difference already!
    So Elsie doesn’t actually need two carers. She’s currently peg fed but pushing to go back to oral feeding and she has apneas where she stops breathing and needs oxygen but these are easy enough to manage

    I work for myself and up the road! So if anything happens or someone called in sick, I could be home in less than 2 minutes!

    One day a week I need to go to London but I can change this if it’s a heavier health care week and on days I go make sure there is an emergency number

    it just feels like it’s taken me 6 weeks to put things in place to enable me to do this and because someone new has started at the ICB we are back to square one again

    It feels like they are actively trying to make things as hard as possible when I’m trying so hard to do a good job and be on top of so much as well as trying to find more advanced treatment

    The new ICB person went through all the log books and queried things like “mum went out for a jog” (these were actually social hours) but it feels like I’m under surveillance when all working so hard

    I went through a horrific time last year and I can’t understand this approach, it doesn’t feel supportive.

    Thank you for all the recommendations ❤️

  • RandallC
    RandallC Community Member Posts: 8 Listener

    also I’m not medically trained so my child minder replacing me as PR is no different to having me there now - she’s learnt how to do the pump and the meds in the same way I had to

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 4,856 Championing
    edited May 16

    You sound to be doing an incredible job with your daughter @RandallC

    I think the ICB people sometimes forget parents are not medically trained and learn what is needed to be done so there child can be at home.

    I am not medically trained either but had to learn how to do drips for my daughter at home and the first few times when I was on my own without hospital support was quite terrifying. (she did not have a neurological condition).

    Do not let the ICB person bully you into feeling guilty for going for a jog.

    I really hope you get the support you deserve.

    Take care.

  • RandallC
    RandallC Community Member Posts: 8 Listener

    thank you! according to ICB rules I’m not allowed to leave the house even to go to the shops or pharmacy let alone a jog without being covered by someone for PR unless I take Elsie

    And even now I have someone in place who I pay to allow me to work and get out it’s a problem again - I didn’t take anti depressants all of past year but exercise keeps me sane

    Her apnea happens in the day and is why we stayed in hospital for so long but she’s hugely improved and anyone can manage three now with wit oxygen - none of us have had training for this and Zoe (child minder) as well as family can use this easily

    When Elsie starts nursery the nursery do not have medical training but as a carer would be with Elsie they in that instance take role of PR and are happy

    So this should apply all round as it has been past few weeks until new person started

  • RandallC
    RandallC Community Member Posts: 8 Listener

    and if they are making it this difficult they should be making it easier to find ways around it, to empower me to work, to keep mental health good so I’m better for Elsie

  • RandallC
    RandallC Community Member Posts: 8 Listener

    Elsie is my daughter and I as her mum should have the freedom as a sensible person to nominate who she is safe with and what’s the point of the care package if I also need medically trained people? Then I might as well pay a medically trained person full stop and lose the package and if that’s the case how is that fair? Am I only entities to support if I don’t leave the house? We get social hours at the weekend sometimes from a different team where you can leave the house though these are often cancelled last minute but the carers who turn up for these are the same that come during the week so it makes no sense and they agree

    So it’s one rule when the hours are care hours and another when social so the reason can’t be because they are worried for Elsie

  • RandallC
    RandallC Community Member Posts: 8 Listener

    thank you yes I’m sure we can iron out and I’m grateful for this forum and it’s made me realise we aren’t alone and there is power in knowledge

    I will update

    The ICB may of course also be looking for ways to justify reducing our package as Elsie is doing well so that’s possible but she’ll need a level of care most likely all her life so it’s important we find a way forwards and I too want others to benefit

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 4,856 Championing

    Hi @Mary_Scope are you able to add anything to this thread?

    Thank you.