Lcwra WCA - Felt like assessor was answering for me

Virgo_

hi hope everyone doesn’t mind me

Putting this here . Just a quick low down of what’s happened , so I had a lcwra interview in around 2021, and was awarded lcw , things then changed and I noted my change in my journal in November 2024 ,then was sent another f50 I think it’s called to fill out , anyway I filled it out and sent it back for December 2024 , in the meantime was approved for full pip for 5 years , but it’s now 2026 and I got my form for pip 4 weeks ago or less and had to return it back for the 13th June for my re assessment of pip ,I had it all sent back for about the 7yh cos I record delivered it , and I also got my work capability assessment for today the 11th June ,

Has anyone had this at pretty much the same time ,

I’m a nervous wreck , anyway today on my work capability assessment I felt like she was just agreeing with me and mostly saying words to make it sound like it was positive , such as she’d say is that everyday yes and so on about everything , I felt like she was answering for me if that make sense , but now I’m literally panicking thinking I’ve failed , she said she’s gonna write up my final decision today and I’ll know in a week or two , I just feel like my luck I’m gonna get the decisions roughly at the same time ams its gonna be negative on both

, and don’t know how I’ll feel if I don’t get awarded especially on my pip , it’s just so much for one week to have them both at the same time . I felt like she had my pip form in front her because when

I filled out my form in 2024 I never mentioned a walking stick but I did on my pip form that I e just sent back , and today she said you said u use a stick , but I hadn’t mentioned that to her at that time until she spoke about ? Can they use the same forms for both ? I’m so anxious I won’t sleep now till I know . Sorry for the long post I hope someone can help me , I think my question is has anyone felt like it went well but gets a negative response

Ross1975

Out of all of WCA the assessments I've had I think there was only one where the assessor was like yours where she was kind of answering the questions for me and in a positive way, like, 'So it's impossible for you to do that' and 'so it's basically everyday when you struggle' etc, and I ended up being classed as not fit for work. So I don't think the assessor being like that is necessarily a bad sign at all.

Rosie_Scope

Hi @Virgo_, both assessments coming at once sounds like a lot, it's no wonder you're feeling stressed about it! Hope you managed to get a bit of rest last night.

It's so hard to tell with the assessors but I hope it's a positive sign that she was understanding what you said to her.

As far as I'm aware, there isn't very much information sharing between PIP and UC at the moment and the assessments are fully separate. So it's unlikely that she had seen your PIP forms. Would your stick have been mentioned in any evidence that you submitted?

Fingers crossed you hear back soon and get the result you're hoping for ☺️

Virgo_

no I’d not mentioned the stick because I only started

Using it this last year and had not mentioned it to anyone else other the pip form when I returned it , it just seemed odd , so I did think she may have had access to it but maybe not I don’t know , and thank you I did sleep ok and funnily enough woke up feeling revitalised, like thank god it’s both done now , however that didn’t last for long cos now I’m just wondering what the outcome will be ,

It’s alot of anxiety ,

But I’ll just have to crack on with it and wait tbanknuiu for replying xx

Virgo_

omg Ross this gives me some hope thank

You , because that’s exactly how she sounded she was pretty much saying it for me and I was like yeah ,

Especially when I said about pain med and I was saying it helps and when I said but, to carry on the sentence and she said but like it takes the edge off but it’s still really bad , I probably would have worded it different , thank you for replying I feel like this had given me a glimmer of hope , I mean in all honestly I’m on lcw as it stands and now the job centre only ring me every 3 months so it’s notThat bad but I could just do without it all , thanks again

Virgo_

just to let you know my pip was successful, I had a text this morning at 8.30 to say a decision was made and I’d have a letter within two weeks. So I called them and got through to a lovely lady who confirmed it was staying exactly the same till 3032 , I’m so happy one less struggle now , but now I’m just waiting for my lcw outcome , im still happy tho less anxious but still anxious if that makes sense . I just wanted to tell you xx

luvpink

@Virgo_

Congratulations on your pip award.

I got mine ongoing for ten years.

Rosie_Scope

Brilliant news @Virgo_ and great that you got a long award too! Hope your WCA result is just as positive when it comes through, keep us posted!

Virgo_

thank you ,

I’m so pleased , I’ll definitely sleep good tonight , altho I’m tearing not to worry about this other but I’m still a bag of nerves 😬 xx

Virgo_

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1132090#Comment_1132090

that’s brilliant , makes such a difference not having to worry for this period of time now ,

I really thought I’d loose it cos I keep hearing horror stories about people getting taken off it , but yes it’s a relief , well done to u too ,

Virgo_

does a

Time know how long it takes for a lcw re assessment decision, and does it mean it’s bad news if it’s taken ages. It’s been 15 days now , I actually can’t sleep it’s all I think about all day every day , I mean not constantly but pretty much ,

I keep checking for

Updates , I keep redding comments on Reddit convinced myself that I’ve answered everything wrong ,

pereto

well done, im commenting as i dont know how to follow a thread to see new posts lol. but im interested to see the updateon he lcw bit lol

Rosie_Scope

A wait can be normal @Virgo_, it doesn't mean your LCWRA has been rejected. Sometimes there are just long waits unfortunately, horrible as it is! Try not to read too many things from the internet if you can manage it. You did the best you could at the time, and every case is individual so it's hard to compare your experience to others. Often the internet gives you the worst case scenarios too as fewer people come to talk about it if things have gone well.

Hope it's not too much longer for you! Look after yourself ☺️

Virgo_

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1135115#Comment_1135115

thank you this has made me feel a bit better , and yes you are right I suppose people online don’t always share the good news, hence why I’m reading all the horror stories , i just wish it would tell me either way so I can know how to go forward , at the minute I’m in limbo, just waiting , I feel like I should start my appeal while I’m waiting just in case , so it’s ready to go straight in ! I’ll let u know how it all goes , this is a new week so maybe I might hear soon x

Virgo_

hi . My decision came back as lcw , I’m

Absolutely livid I can’t even begin to explain how I feel after the whole delay of it . I’m in the process of writing a letter without seeing the assessors report I’m not bothered what she has said I want to get the mandatory letter sent back in , I’ve heard it’s very unlikely to get this overturned has anyone had any experience with this ? I’m shaking , I can’t belive they have refused lcwra . My son who is 9 helps me with everything , I can’t even care for him properly

Kimi87

I'm really sorry this has happened, it's possible to overturn a decision MR stage but statistically the chances are slim, appeal tribunal hearings have a much higher success rate.

Try and focus your letter on where you meet the LCWRA threshold

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/universal-credit-uc/uc-faq/limited-capability-for-work-related-activity

Rosie_Scope

Sorry to hear that @Virgo_, thats really disappointing. As Kimi mentioned above, tribunals have a much higher rate of success even if the MR doesn't initially go the way you need it to, so it's worth a shot to challenge them all the way if you're feeling up to it. Hope you're managing okay, the initial shock of a bad result can be really hard to deal with 💛

Virgo_

it’s so hard ,

I’ve waited 18 months for this , 3 weeks wait for decision.

The more I thought about it the more I knew it would be a fail ,

I suppose they are trained to try and catch people of guard , I think because I’d been

Doing both pip and this at the same time I was just overall more stressed , I felt like she did answer a lot for me and

As much as I thought it was a good thing I see now it was more her answers than my own . Does anyone know how long a md takes ? I’m gonna upload my letters tommor ans more evidence , but I don’t want to send everything as I’ll save that for the tribunal, I’m

Just so annoyed , it seems like such a long time for nothing , I can’t belive how they can expect me to look for work when I have severe conditions and how they effect me , I mean I can’t even climb into my bath ,

I have to have a wash at the sink I fractured my shoulder and had all this as evidence that they have not seen , I mean the last information they had from me was 2024 ,

They sent me a text to say about This appointment not a letttef as they stated. I’m wondering if it was a letter does it say on there to send more evidence if possible ? I’m not sure I only ever received a text ! I’m just so upset .x but I’ve got fire in my belly now , I’ll do my letter I won’t expect to much back from it and concentrate on a tribunal , that’s all now I’m preparing for , I’ve waited this long I can most certainly take it further and wait longer xx

Kimi87

With LCW you can't be forced to apply for work, but you are expected to engage with a work coach for work preparation activities.

Some are more reasonable than others while the claimant is challenging the decision.

Unfortunately there are no fixed timescales for MR's.

Virgo_

so can a mandatory decision take another 18 months prior to a tribunal? It’s so ridiculous, but I suppose I’ve had the day now to think I’m

Not getting it so now it won’t matter , they won’t force me

Into anything I xant do I’ll happily still take the phone calls etc , I just find it ridiculous that it’s come to this , thank you

Kimi87

I wouldn't expect an MR to take 18 months, but it's very hard to advise on timescales as there are so many variables which impact how quickly the DWP get to it.