Timms Review on PIP - Interim Report (Links Included)

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  • sben
    sben Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 154 Empowering

    I have epilepsy, in which I constantly have seizures, I have a gait disorder (mobility problems), and I have non-epileptic attack disorder, in which this also makes me have weird seizures.

    Epilepsy, gait disorder and non-epileptic attack disorder are not going to go away, I have got these disabilities for life, in which PIP does not understand.

    For the past 13 years, I have tried applying for PIP, and also gone through the Tribunal Appeals. None of them believe anything that I say, and they do not believe how difficult it is for me to cope with these disabilities.

    Everytime I try to apply for PIP and stuggle to go through the Tribunal Appeals, I am always asked the same questions, dispite me always giving evidence of my medical care, how my disabilities affect me, and the care that I need because of my disabilities.

    Because of how PIP and the Tribunal Appeals have treated me, I am unable to afford and get the care that I need.

    By looking at the Timms Reform, I can see that this will not help me.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 308 Championing
    edited October 12

    It's strange as earlier last month there was a study that the public overwhelmingly supports disabled people, who can't work who are on benefits.

    So what the media did is basically memory holed that story and it's back with a new attack line, 18-25/30 year olds with "mild" mental health conditions/neurodivergence. It seems that's the line but politicians want to go further.

    Sections of the British media are quite frankly propaganda outlets who seek to manufacture consent. They went on a media attack at disabled people in August with a certain Turquoise political party, then quieted down last month, now they're back at it.

    Won't name names as it's crossing a line but certain talking heads who propagate lies and hatred are just cowards who either got their 6 or 7 figure per year jobs not out of ability but who they're related to, they've never done a days work in their lives and have basically lived on easy street, that's called nepotism by the way.

    I needed to vent, I apologise.

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community Member Posts: 6,488 Championing

    If PIP was means tested, they would ask how much money you have, but they don't.

    Universal Credit is means tested. It can't be claimed by people with more than £16,000 in savings.

    If you've been to multiple tribunal appeals for PIP then something is going wrong there. It sounds like you need professional help to complete the tribunal but that can be hard to find now. It is also possible that your conditions just don't fit the PIP descriptors. My 'main' conditions ended up being ignored the first time I applied for PIP, as they just didn't fit in the boxes.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 416 Pioneering

    The Timms report needs to come out sooner rather than later. We don't need all this speculation of what's going to happen. I keep asking myself when I hear something regarding benefit changes 'Is this a Fact? (is there hard evidence to back something up) or Opinion (My/other people's personal opinion).'

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 308 Championing

    Timms might say otherwise but they do want to reduce spending on PIP this will tie into Alan Milburn's "Neets" review.

    Look for patterns in rhetoric, "Neets", ADHD, Autism, "mild or moderate" mental illnesses, they are the things constantly mentioned over and over again, it's by design to soften up the public, thing is the savings they think will happen won't, there will be a cascade effect unless there's massive investment in the Jobs/Training market, within the NHS, within apprenticeships if they do it these days to actually genuinely help people.

    Nobody within the main political parties want to admit that the system has failed Neets, Adhd sufferers, Autism sufferers, Mild or Moderate mentally ill people.

  • ChrisR777
    ChrisR777 Community Member Posts: 2,113 Championing

    How come the 20 something over the road can lie in bed all day, whilst his mum works 2 jobs? I can see his blinds still closed from sat by the window in my powerchair. He usually gets up at tea time, as he comes out in his pyjamas to put his pizza box in the bin.

    He has a few pals, and they are NEETS as well, but it doesn't stop them having the silly white veneers on their teeth, and the non too cheap street fashion. If doing nothing is so lucrative, no wonder they don't want work, it's high time they were attending job clubs and doing a bit of voluntary work in their communities, not hanging about the streets late at night, attempting to intimidate passes by. I still go out with my dog when I please, they can call me whatever they like.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,773 Championing

    The number of Disability Haters posting on Facebook is frankly shocking - best avoided if you are offended in any way !

    Many of them are, unsurprisingly, linked to Reform !!

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,773 Championing

    Timms final due Autumn 2026 — imminently — ahead of Budget 28 Oct — Committee expects response by 16 Oct. So possibly this Friday

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Community Member Posts: 416 Pioneering

    In my view the sooner the better. At least we know then what's coming down the line.

  • Autumnleaf
    Autumnleaf Community Member Posts: 1,133 Empowering

    Just some thoughts about the prevailing attitudes about non-physical disabilities and the costs that the DWP won't recognise:

    People with autism, depression, anxiety etc. incur costs in all sorts of ways.

    For example, autistic people are far more likely to be isolated with no support network, as they often struggle with socialisation.

    They may have greater need of a companion animal.

    They can have to buy heavy furniture new because the cost of installation or building is often included, whereas people who have support networks can more easily get someone to help with this kind of thing.

    They may need to go out to cinema or other outings (concerts, etc) as otherwise they stay indoors all the time.

    There is almost no provision for long term mental health problems, so people who cannot access any help from NHS sometimes have to pay a therapist for ongoing support.

    Again, people with neurodivergent difficulties are very prone to mental health problems because the struggles they face in life are ongoing and never cease.

    If an autistic person works full time and is good at masking, they will be assumed to have a "mild' condition, whereas the masking can be utterly exhausting. I have heard people (especially women who have been diagnosed late in life) talk of how exhausting they have always found life. If they worked they sometimes had no energy in reserve for any other aspect of life. To some people, socialising can feel like holding your breath constantly. It don't mean you don't want to have contact with people, it is just so difficult.

    There may be people with mild neurodivergence issues, but if that is the case then only they will recognise it as such, as they are the ones who know what they go through.

    Coldness can affect people with depression very severely, especially if the suffer from SAD. Wearing warmer clothes doesn't always help with winter. So bills are higher.

    Everyone who has a condition that isolates them is likely to spend most of their life at home, which incurs higher bills.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,773 Championing

    Only the interim report is out. It was published on 9th July 2026.

    That report was based on the Call for Evidence (38,000+ responses) and said PIP is "not working" - describing the process as dehumanising and overly complex. It didn't make final recommendations.

    The full / final report with recommendations to the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions is still due in Autumn 2026.

    The DWP Minister Sir Stephen Timms confirmed in June that the review will report in autumn, and the co-chairs' July update said they would make recommendations to the Secretary of State in the autumn.

    Most commentary is expecting November, so it can feed into the Budget / 2027-28 plans. Current guidance on gov.uk still lists:

    Expected full report: Later in 2026