70 Up - tonight at 9pm on ITV

WhatThe
WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,313 Championing
edited September 15 in Everyday life

We've followed their lives for six decades - now the stars of 7 Up are bowing out

The cast of 70 Up pose for a photo in a cinema.

Image source, ITV Image caption,

70 Up stars fromย left to right: Peter Davies, Symon Basterfield, Paul Kligerman, Tony Walker, Neil Hughes, John Brisby, Andrew Brackfield, Bruce Balden, Jackie Bassett, Suzy Lusk, Sue Davis

By George Wright

Six decades have passed since Jackie Bassett first appeared on TV aged seven, skipping down the road with her little sister.

It was 1964 and she had been selected by teachers at her east London primary school to appear in a documentary called 7 Up.

The show interviewed 14 seven-year-olds from vastly different socioeconomic backgrounds. Inspired by the Jesuit saying: "Give me the child until he is seven and I will show you the man", it was intended as a one-off - a snapshot of Britain's class system and how it shapes us from a young age.

"They only picked me because I never stopped talking," Jackie told the BBC, with an infectious giggle that hasn't changed since childhood.

Little did she know then, but Jackie was being filmed for a show that would go on to be the longest-running documentary series ever made. In 2024, it was voted the most influential TV show of the past 50 years.

Now the curtain is falling, with the final instalment - 70 Up - airing on ITV this Tuesday.

The cast of 70 Up - John Brisby, Bruce Balden, Symon Basterfield, Andrew Brackfield, Suzy Lusk, Jackie Bassett, Tony Walker, Sue Davis, Peter Davies, Paul Kligerman and Neil Hughes - hold up glasses of fizz and smile for the camera

A black and white shot of the cast of 21 Up holding up glasses and smiling for the camera. Left to right: Bruce Balden, John Brisby, Peter Davies, Jackie Bassett, Andrew Brackfield (at the back), Lynn Johnson (under Neil's arm), Tony Walker (small guy at front), Neil Hughes (at the back with pint), Charles Furneaux (long hair), Sue Davis, Symon Basterfield (afro), Paul Kligerman, Suzy Lusk and Nick Hitchon.

"We didn't really know what we were doing, we had no idea what was happening," Jackie said of the day the Granada TV crew turned up at her school.

In the first episode, Jackie appeared alongside her friends, Lynn and Sue, as they were asked questions about boys at school and their hopes for the future. Jackie said she would like to marry a boy "that's not got a lot of money, but has got some money".

The nation was also introduced to the likes of wide-eyed Neil, who explained his plans to become either an astronaut or a coach driver; anxious Paul, who ruminated on the idea of one day marrying a woman who made him eat his greens; and pensive Bruce, who said his "heart's desire is to see my daddy who is 6,000 miles away" in Rhodesia.

Jackie, far left, sits at the top of a slide in a children's playground in east London in 7 Up with Lynn and Sue.

In 7 Up, friends Jackie Bassett, Lynn Johnson and Sue Davis were asked questions about boys and their hopes for the future

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  • CarNineSix
    CarNineSix Community Member Posts: 65 Contributor

    Just watched this, my mother first told me about this when I was a kid. I have memories spanning the whole series, watching this brings back so much normal day to day stuff you forget.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,313 Championing

    Wasn't it great looking back?

  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Community Member Posts: 6,405 Championing

    I saw bits of this while channel hopping. Must admit I found it a bit disconcerting seeing the aging process happen in just a few seconds. I guess we don't really notice normally as it happens so gradually. I had trouble working out which face belonged to which person at some points!

  • Mary_Scope
    Mary_Scope Posts: 5,741 Scope Online Community Children and Family Specialists

    I caught the last 10/15 minutes of it last night but I'm hoping to watch it from the beginning on ITV player soon. I had not heard of this show or idea before but what an intriguing concept๐Ÿ˜Š

  • Rachel_Scope
    Rachel_Scope Posts: 4,887 Online Community Team

    I love this series, it's so fascinating to see how they change. I haven't watched this one yet but think I will tonight.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,313 Championing

    I recommend watching all the documentaries one day!

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,617 Championing

    I've never been completely convinced by the original idea behind it. Following 14 people can make for interesting television but it's obviously a far too small and selectively chosen group to really demonstrate how much someone's childhood determines their future. Some of their lives seem to fit the theory and others really don't.

    One thing I've always wondered is how much of the story we're seeing is actually the participants lives and how much is the way the filmmakers have chosen to edit and present them? Obviously they can't show everything, but selecting certain things over others must inevitably create a particular impression of each person. ๐Ÿค”

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,726 Championing
    edited September 17

    I remember watching 14 or 21 up - in about 1972 at primary school - I would have been under 10 at the time - I understand that it "followed" the same people throughout their life every 7 years !

  • Hicks
    Hicks Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    for sure its not scientific but that doesnt make it not worth watching

    obviously filmakers will hugely influence what we see and create a narative, thats their job, but i think the idea of this show sounds great. not sure on the ethics but i never seen or heard about it before and am going to find it to watch

  • Hicks
    Hicks Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    can you tell me more about it? is it watchable with only this episode or is it like a series where you have to watch them all? are there actually 60 odd years worth I need to catch up is what im getting at

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,617 Championing

    I didn't say it makes it not worth watching, not sure where you got that from.

    Anyway the editing is something I'm particularly interested in though. Obviously the filmmakers have to create a narrative, but after 70 years it must be quite easy for the way someone's story is edited to influence how viewers perceive them, especially when we're only seeing a tiny fraction of their actual lives. I think that makes the ethics of it quite interesting too.

  • Hicks
    Hicks Community Member Posts: 21 Connected

    knowing your life is being recorded and broadcast probably impacts how you are and what you end up doing too

    i really want to watch it

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,442 Online Community Team

    I watched this the other night. I found it really fascinating to see how everyone changed over time.

    But I'd agree with you @Ross1975, I did wonder how much of it was shaped by the director and the ethics of it all is quite interesting.

    I thought the interviewer was a bit tactless at some points! Very hard-hitting questions. Maybe that's a good thing in some ways, or perhaps it's just the old fashioned way of doing things, I don't know. But I found it a bit shocking how he asked a man who looked like he'd been struggling "Do you think you've failed" or something similar. You could just see his face drop with immense sadness. I think one of them even said that he'd distanced himself from the production because he felt they were portraying him in one particular way.

    I found the whole thing quite bittersweet. But that's life, I suppose!

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,313 Championing

    Hi and welcome to the forum Hicks ๐Ÿคฉ

    Yes, watch from the beginning; Seven Up! was made in 1964 in black and white and was riveting television! I watched it in 1970 when it was repeated ahead of the next documentary, 7 Plus Seven (probably on a black and white TV). Here's something from Wikipedia:

    The subjects are first seen on a group visit to London Zoo in 1964, where the narrator - Michael Apted - announces "We brought these 20 children together for the very first time." The series then follows fourteen of the children.

    The participants were chosen in an attempt to represent different social classes in Britain in the 1960s. Apted states in the 42 commentary track that he was asked to find children at the extremes. Because the show was not originally intended to become a repeating series, no long-term contract was signed with the participants. According to Apted, participants in the subsequent programmes since Seven Up! have been paid a sum for their appearance in each instalment, as well as equal parts of any prize the film may win. Each subject is filmed in about two days and the interview itself takes more than six hours.

    Apted later said that it was a poor decision to include only four female participants.

    63 Up was his last film.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,313 Championing

    The series has also been satirised. The Simpsons' 2007 episode "Springfield Up" is narrated by an Apted-like filmmaker who depicts the past and current lives of a group of Springfield residents he has revisited every eight years. The "37 Up" segment of Tracey Ullman: A Class Act, first aired in 1992, parodies the series. Harry Enfield parodied the series in a spoof titled "2 Up" with his characters Tim Nice-but-Dim and Wayne Slob.

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  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Community Member Posts: 1,617 Championing

    The more I think about the central premise the more I find it rather questionable. Following 14 people for 70 years and then using their experiences to illustrate how childhood shapes the rest of our lives seems an incredibly narrow basis for making such a sweeping argument. Interesting television, certainly, but I'm not convinced that the conclusions drawn from it are necessarily as meaningful as the programme sometimes makes them seem.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,442 Online Community Team

    I remember some of those parodies, especially the Simpsons one! Did you ever watch the BBC's 'A Child of Our Time' with Robert Winston?

    Child of Our Time - Wikipedia

    I'm sure it was inspired by this one. It didn't run for quite as long as the 'Up' series but it followed similar lines of about how our childhood and experiences shape our personalities. But if I remember correctly, there were a few more psychological tests and things rather than only interviews. Also really interesting!

    You can watch all the previous series of it on ITVX @Hicks, if you wanted to catch up. The most recent one did feature clips of previous years too if you didn't want to commit to watching it all! There's a new episode coming on the 22nd I believe.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,313 Championing

    Morning Rosie!

    I only remember Harry Enfield's spoof from that list but A Child of Our Time, yes, I watched most of it.

    Every Up film in the series returns to the original black and white programme and subsequent interviews as the participants grow up. Should be watched in its entirety. The kids are cute and the world looked so different back then. There are some very sad stories and people come in and out of the series. Of course, by the final episode there is more to review and less to learn about each individual.

    You have to wonder what dumb sexist comment was asked of the three remaining women that wasn't asked of the men ๐Ÿ™„

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 9,442 Online Community Team

    I'd definitely like to go back and watch them all at some point @WhatThe, it's fascinating.

    From the clips in the latest episode, I loved hearing from them as children and what they thought of the world at that point in time. That clip of young Paul saying he didn't want a wife in case she fed him vegetables - so sweet ๐Ÿ˜„

    It's such a snapshot of each era too and what life was like at the time. You're right about the sexist comments, though! And so few women featured, it's very unequal.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 6,313 Championing
    edited September 20

    We returned to England in 1970 so British television was a novelty for us! There were only three channels mostly showing the news or cartoons - we hadn't discovered Top of the Pops - it was Christmastime, 17th December and an unforgettable double bill.

    Of course, in those days, women got married (or didn't) and had babies so they weren't expected to contribute much of interest oops!