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How long to hear from PIP?

jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
edited April 2017 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi everyone...Ive just joined the Community! 
Ive been on dla for many years due to my various health problems...I was sent a Pip form abt 3mnths ago which i sent off nxt day...Ive not heard anything since..except for a text to say theyve recieved it...How long does it usually take to decide what happens next? I really worried now..
Thanks for any help or advice ..J x
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  • Sam_ScopeSam_Scope Member Posts: 7,732 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @jeana1 welcome to the community, Ive moved your post to the DLA and PIP category.
    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Three months sounds a long time - I heard from Atos after a few weeks.  You could phone DWP and ask what's happening.
  • Sam_ScopeSam_Scope Member Posts: 7,732 Disability Gamechanger
    The contact info for ongoing claims is 0345 850 3322 

    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    edited April 2017
    Three months is getting to be about the maximum time for a response.

    I had been on a DLA indefinite award and was invited to apply for PIP in December 2016. I received my PIP award in March 17. I don't know why they take so long as in my case l was not required to be interviewed, l received the highest rate award for both components of PIP scoring 48 points. I received a letter advising the above and that they would contact me again not before July 2026. It is a very worrying time, but at least they continue to pay you DLA during the process.

    As Sam has given you the phone number, l suggest you ring them, if you do not get a satisfactory answer or they don't bother to answer your call at all, ring the office of your MP and ask the case worker to ring them, MP's case workers have dedicated phone lines and can demand that your claim is put in front of a decision maker immediately.

    Of course being disabled automatically puts you to the back of DWP's list of priorities, because this government doesn't care about the disabled population, l am afraid to say.

    I hope you receive the outcome you are hoping for.

    Regards Rob

  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Thankyou so much everyone for your help...yes im disabled so obviously theyre not that bothered..
    Isnt it awful what ppl like us have to go through? Ive been on dla for years..also as luck would have it I recieved a new entitlement letter to dla ..ongoing..the same day I got my pip forms!! Im nearly 68yrs old and was told i didnt need to apply for pip as its age limit was 64? Seems thats wrong info..?? 
    Thanks for any further help or advice..so kind of you all x
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    edited April 2017
    Anyone under 65 on 8 April 2013 has to claim PIP when notified by DWP.  I was one such.  It is grossly unfair as many people will be well over 64 when they get their PIP forms.  A fairer way would be for people to stay on DLA if they are over 65 when their case comes up for reassessment for PIP - but this is not going to happen.

    This evil Government is against anyone claiming benefits, not just the disabled.  They can get away with it because benefit claimants, except for pensioners, do not vote in large numbers.

    PS.  On Facebook I have heard the Prime Minister referred to as 'Satan in the shoes!'  
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Agree...she is !!
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi Matilda...thanks for your reply...yes you're so right this Govt is against all who are claiming benefits! I looked up the info that you said about being under 64 etc... I think I may have to claim to Attendance allowance instead ? Tho I need a mobility component to enable me to get another car as I can't walk hardly..and I live in a remote area...so can't even walk to any shops etc .have to see how it goes ...il keep you updated...Cheers J x
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi jeana1.  For a mobility component you'll have to claim PIP.
  • WheelyRachelWheelyRachel Member Posts: 67 Courageous
    @jeana1
    if you previously had DLA then you should still be intitel to PIP . So please try to reapply.
    as once you got DLA you had it for life. though PIP is now going to have regular review assessments.
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Thanks W/ Rachel..I'm going to ring them today to find out what's happening ...let you know...
  • nanof6nanof6 Member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    i had the letter to apply for PIP from DLA last year, i was 66 i think?  i was born 1949
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi have u been sorted yet? Yes i was born in 1949 too! Seems we just missed out on the age thing with dla...really cant see the logic of it..after 60 i think were all in the same boat getting older..! Hope u got your pip ok...im still waiting...
    Good luck! J ps..im 68 in june..
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi just an update...I rang Pip today & Im to have a home visit soon!! Date not clarified yet...but hope its asap......but at least its a step forward for me..
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    edited April 2017
    If you are already getting DLA and was born before 1952 you should not have to re-apply. I was born in 1952, so they picked me out last December. It was okay, l didn't require to have a visit and was awarded the highest rate PIP of both components. Mind you my MP completed my forms and sorted my claim for me. I have said it before, but will say it again, if you are not happy with having to re-apply ask your MP to help, they have case workers.
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    The cut-off date is 8 April 2013.  Over 65 on 8 April 2013, you stay on DLA; under 65 on 8 April 2013 you have to apply for PIP when the DWP tell you to.

    Thank you for the advice about asking your MP to help.  Too late for me - I am now awaiting a tribunal hearing date.  But if I have further problems with PIP I'll contact my MP.
  • nanof6nanof6 Member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    yes jean i started last march with the phone call, then had my first payment ofPIP end of sep high rate for both, jean when did you have to phone?  it might be quicker this year 
  • nanof6nanof6 Member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    rob i had to, i got the letter to phone them
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    edited April 2017

    2. Eligibility

    I have just spoken to my MPs senior case worker and under DWP rules the following applies. So if you were 66 when you were contacted you should not have to re-apply.

    section 2

    You must be aged 16 to 64 and have a health condition or disability where you:

    • have had difficulties with daily living or getting around (or both) for 3 months
    • expect these difficulties to continue for at least 9 months (unless you’re terminally ill with less than 6 months to live)

    You must have lived in England, Scotland or Wales for at least 2 of the last 3 years, and be in one of these countries when you apply. If you’ve recently returned from living in another EEA country, you might be able to get PIP sooner.

    The process is different in Northern Ireland.

    You can get PIP whether you’re working or not.

    There are additional rules if you live abroad or if you’re not a British citizen.

    Regards Rob

  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    I was 68 when DWP contacted me Aug 2016 and had to apply for PIP.  There are several members on here who were over 65 when contacted who had to apply for PIP (because we all were still under 65 on 8 April 2013).  

    The rules you are quoting @Robs apply to new PIP claimants, not to those who were on DLA on 8 April 2013 and still under 65.
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    Okay what l said refers to those of us given an indefinite DLA award.

    When you’ll be invited to claim Personal Independence Payment (PIP) depends on when your Disability Living Allowance (DLA) ends. You’ll also be invited to claim PIP if your needs change before your DLA ends.

    Your DLA ends before September 2017

    You’ll be told 20 weeks before your DLA ends and invited to claim PIP.

    Contact the Disability Benefits helpline if your DLA payment is due to end in the next 4 weeks and you haven’t received a letter about making a new claim.

    Your payment may stop if you don’t contact the helpline.

    Your DLA ends after September 2017 or your DLA award has no end date

    You can be contacted any time to claim PIP. This includes if you have a long-term award of DLA or an indefinite award with no end date.

    Not everyone will be contacted to claim PIP right away. You’ll continue to get DLA until Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) writes to you about when it will end.

    Regards Rob

  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi ...just an update...Im having a home visit re my pip claim...which I asked for...awaiting further details..
    Glad its now progressing! At last!
  • nanof6nanof6 Member Posts: 200 Pioneering
    Rob my DLA was for life, they contacted  me to phone to change to PIP 
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    Then you should not have to be re assessed. If you were born in or before 1952 with an indefinite DLA award, you should continue to receive DLA for life. I think you said you was born in 1949.

    You need to ring them and point this out. 
    Please do do it now, you don't need the worry and they DWP have mistakenly asked you to re apply.

    Let me know how you get on.

    Regards Rob
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi Rob...wow hope so!! Yes il call them...but wouldnt you think these so called ppl who send these pip letters would check it out for ppl my age? Theres quite a few of of us on here...ok cheers il ring em ...
    Many thanks...
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    Hi Jeans

    You certainly would expect them to check, but you have to take into consideration that the DWP have employed outside companies to administer the scheme. Mostly they are manned by people who just don't want to be there. Hence the well being of us is not high on their list of priorities. Did you know the amount of money saved so far roughly equates to the amount this government subsidises the Royal Opera House.

    Regards Rob
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @jeana1

    Anyone on DLA and under 65 on 8 April 2013 will have to reapply and be assessed for PIP when contacted by the DWP.  I was on DLA and aged 68 when I was contacted by DWP in Aug 2016 to inform me that my DLA was ending and inviting me to apply for PIP.  I was assessed for PIP by Atos in Oct 2016.  There are many members of this community who were under 65 on 8 April 2013 who were contacted recently by DWP to inform them that their DLA was ending and that they would have to be assessed for PIP.


  • sue66sue66 Member Posts: 124 Pioneering

    jeana1 said:

    Hi have u been sorted yet? Yes i was born in 1949 too! Seems we just missed out on the age thing with dla...really cant see the logic of it..after 60 i think were all in the same boat getting older..! Hope u got your pip ok...im still waiting...
    Good luck! J ps..im 68 in june..


    Hi Jeana  Hubby to missed out as born in 1949, so annoying as well.  As you say after 60 we are all getting older and the health reasons we got the DLA in the first place all them years ago  is bound to be worse. Anyhow hubby had his assessment four weeks ago, lost the higher rate of mobilty, got standard rate for both, but missed out by 2 points on getting the higher rate. The 2 points were lost by saying he could walk over 20 meters without pain! He has RA and is in pain all the time. But at the end of the day relieved to have got something seeing he was under no specialist  anymore.  Thankfully he still had his original DLA paperwork from 20 yrs ago which seemed to help.  My turn next but i wont hold my breath as M.E.  and no medication and  hardly any proof at all.  
  • sue66sue66 Member Posts: 124 Pioneering

    Matilda said:

    I was 68 when DWP contacted me Aug 2016 and had to apply for PIP.  There are several members on here who were over 65 when contacted who had to apply for PIP (because we all were still under 65 on 8 April 2013).  

    The rules you are quoting @Robs apply to new PIP claimants, not to those who were on DLA on 8 April 2013 and still under 65.



    Matilda said:

    I was 68 when DWP contacted me Aug 2016 and had to apply for PIP.  There are several members on here who were over 65 when contacted who had to apply for PIP (because we all were still under 65 on 8 April 2013).  

    The rules you are quoting @Robs apply to new PIP claimants, not to those who were on DLA on 8 April 2013 and still under 65.


    Matilda this is correct, anyone still under 65 on the 8th April 2013  and already had the DLA  still have to apply for the PIP.  Hubby missed it by months so had to apply for PIP he was born Jan 1949.  

  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi Sue..thanks for this...well glad hubby got thro it all ..well done to him!! Bet he's so relieved..I've been waiting 3 months now so was in the mood other day & rang them asking what they're playing at?? I said I want a home visit too!! I thought sod em I've had enough ! The guy said il call u back..so he did & said you can have a home visit..!! Think they boss us about too much to be honest..they seem to think they're Gods!! We're they are just bullies in my opinion..
    anyway will let u know outcome..hope you get sorted soon too..keep in touch ...Jeana 
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @sue66

    PIP points are awarded according to how your medical conditions affect you, not for the conditions themselves, i.e. your abilities to carry out certain everyday tasks, and how far you can walk.  Suggest that you look at the PIP application advice on the Disability Rights and CAB websites.  Pay attention to the list of descriptors.  Submit a diary with your PIP form.

    And have a look at these two documents:

    This one is how assessors are supposed to conduct assessments:


  • sue66sue66 Member Posts: 124 Pioneering
    Thanks Matilda, yes we knew this which is probably how he managed to get the standard rate. I will look at both the links though as may help me for my turn!

    Sue 
  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,316 Pioneering
    Hi @jeana1, Just to add to what others have told you. Suggest you have a look at the sample video on the ATOS website. I know your assessment won't be in an office but you are entitled to see the computer screen i.e.what is being written and be able to correct it if it's not what you said. Be especially careful when they do the physical exam. as a lot of the results are recorded incorrectly on purpose. Have an independent witness there i.e. not family if you can. They are able to take notes which you can later check against the assessor's report. Ring DWP as soon as poss. after your assessment to ask for the report to be sent to you. Forewarned is forearmed so they say. Good Luck..
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Thanks so much Wildlife...very good suggestions!! Yes il do what u said...I just dont trust them so your advice is spot on!! Ive not heard a thing re my home visit since i called them...the guy did say theyre busy in my area...which i laughed at..I live in a remote area !!  But will let you know outcome on here..
    Thanks ..J 
  • sue66sue66 Member Posts: 124 Pioneering

    jeana1 said:

    Hi Sue..thanks for this...well glad hubby got thro it all ..well done to him!! Bet he's so relieved..I've been waiting 3 months now so was in the mood other day & rang them asking what they're playing at?? I said I want a home visit too!! I thought sod em I've had enough ! The guy said il call u back..so he did & said you can have a home visit..!! Think they boss us about too much to be honest..they seem to think they're Gods!! We're they are just bullies in my opinion..
    anyway will let u know outcome..hope you get sorted soon too..keep in touch ...Jeana 


    Will do Jeana  
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi all...just an update...I phoned pip 2wks ago re my assessment at home...still No further contact from them! Seems theyve totally ignored my claim? Its coming up for nearly 4mnths now...ridiculous! Ive tried loads to call them..not answering!! 
    My car due to go back mid may.
    Think that since theyre not bothered then Im not either...but very frustrating...Any ideas? Thanks ...
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    Jeana ring your MPs Office. I did and found them very helpful. They employ case workers, who will ring for you. You will get a response much quicker. The DWP have six dedicated lines for MP case worker calls. I phoned my MPs office and got my award a week later and didn't  need a home visit.
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Thanks Rob ..yes il call them on monday...im fed up now..when i rang pip today a young chap said oh seeing you have a few disabilities you need assessing...I said oh good...perhaps the assessor can perform a cple miracles ? That would be nice!!
  • WheelyRachelWheelyRachel Member Posts: 67 Courageous
    Good luck and try not to get all stressed or worried about the waiting 
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi Rob ..ive just emailed my MP..!! Told him how ive been messed abt for months now..
    Asked him to call me asap...he lives local too ..so im told..
    Il let you know...as il be 68 in june surely im not eligible to claim pip? So confusing...as it says its for ppl up to 64? They keep moving the goalposts!! 
    Cheers J 
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Thanks W/Rachel..
    Hoping it all goes ok in the end..
    And worth the wait!
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    Well done Jeana if you are 68 in June, you should stay on DLA and should not have to claim PIP.  Good luck and keep us posted.
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @jeana1

    I suggest that you post your PIP questions in Ask a benefits advisor category and get an expert answer from the BenefitsTrainingCo who post replies on that thread.
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    edited May 2017
    @Matilda
    The benefit advisor's on this blog are as useful as a chocolate fire guard.
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @Robs

    I have to disagree with you.  The benefits advisors give expert opinions.

    And you are incorrect to say that as Jeana1 is 68 in June she should stay on DLA.  DWP rules state that DLA claimants aged under 65 on 8 June 2013 will have to claim PIP when told to do so by the DWP.
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous

    @ Matilda 

    It depends on the date of birth. PIP (Personal Independence Payment) is the benefit that’s gradually replacing DLA (Disability Living Allowance).

    You’ll carry on getting DLA if you were 65 or over on 8 April 2013. For everyone else aged 16 and over, DLA will stop and you’ll need to claim PIP instead - even if you have a ‘lifetime’ or ‘indefinite’ award for DLA.

    If Jeana's birthday is after the 8 June 2013 she will have to claim PIP. But with regard to benefits advisors on this site, being expert, we will have to disagree. 

  • SethLaaSethLaa Member Posts: 115 Courageous
    @Robs, the advisers on here are obviously far more knowledgeable than you and nowhere near as obnoxious. Safe to say that you WON'T be asking for anymore advice from the advisers
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi..I just missed the cut off point it seems..my Bday is on 19th June..that cut off point was on the 8th! I missed out by 11 days! 
    Typical !!
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Anyway folks.im really thankful for all your advice ...Ive contacted my MP earlier by email..so hope he can help..its 3/ half mnths now not a word frm Pip dept..Im usually a patient person but this is testing my patience..hopefully my MP will give pip lot a kick up the proverbial!! Lol Thanx to all x
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    Bad luck Jeana. I hear this story over and over again. It seems that people with an indefinite DLA award are being targeted first. Still your MPs case worker can help you get it sorted quickly.  I was given an indefinite  DLA award too, but according  to the areas being accessed at that time May 2016 Warwick where l live was NOT even listed at that time. I asked my MPs case worker if that was the case, she said that was most probably the case.

    I have to say Scope, CAB and Headway were most unhelpful, but my MPs case worker sorted it out in about three weeks. It must play on your mind, it's  very stressful, especially if you are due to lose your car.

    Bytheway Motability will let you keep your current car, until your PIP award is sorted out, again ring them on Monday.

    I have just ordered my new Motability car for 1 july delivery. I ordered the new Renualt Kadjar, with parking camera and satnav.

    Take care Rob
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    @SethLaa
    Your are correct in saying l will NOT be asking for anymore EXPERT advice from Scope. How can you call me obnoxious you don't  even know me or my disabilities.

    For your  convenience  l am a qualified human rights lawyer, l therefore know a little more about human rights, disabilities duty of care etc. than the likes of pompous  fool's like you.
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi Rob..I Phoned Motorbility other day re my car...they said im ok to keep it as long as my claims being sorted..even a little longer if necessary! Very helpful ppl..i got my usual car brochure from them last week ...but couldnt read it..too upsetting...This what the Tories have done to us...the disabled & the sick ..those most vunerable in our Society...Anyway fingers crossed eh ...

  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    Good l know Motability are understanding and am pleased you arranged to keep hold of your current car.

    I agree that this Tory government is less than caring when dealing with disabled people's needs and worries. I won't  say don't  worry, because  l know you will. I know how stresful it is, l too was in receipt of higher rate DLA for an indefinite  period. However, my MPs case worker sorted it all out for me. I hope you will be treated the same and come through the other side with the right decision. 

    Take care Rob
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    There is a General Election in six weeks' time.  Remember to vote - and, of course, don't vote Tory.  If you live in a Tory/Labour marginal - vote Labour even if you don't like them either.  Whatever's necessary to reduce the number of Tory MPs being elected.   Labour or Labour/Coalition government would have to be better than the Tories for the sick and disabled.

    We must fight the DWP, currently in the grip of the Tories of course.  I am going to take my appeal as far as I can and won't be intimidated by the risk of losing what award I already have.  Anyway, it would be perverse of a tribunal to take away my current award - they would have no grounds to do so based on my PIP form and even on the assessor's report.  If the tribunal don't increase my award from standard to enhanced, I'll think seriously about appealing to an upper tribunal.

  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    You have a very good MP, @Robs.  I wonder if mine would be as helpful should I need to seek their help.
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    @Matilda

    Keep on fighting l understand that 60% of people  taking their claim to tribunal win their case, so you have a better than 50/50 chance of winning. I hope you win your case. I also agree that voting labour is the best party for those of us that are unable to jump on a bus or train and demonstrate  in Westminster. We didn't  ask to become disabled and have to beg the DWP for a little help.
  • RobsRobs Member Posts: 49 Courageous
    My MP is a conservative, but has a heart and was very helpful. Try ringing yours you may find him/her is a caring individual, l did. In any case what have you got to loose, at worst you will be in the same position you are now,  at best he may sort it out for you, l hope so.

    Take care Rob
  • SethLaaSethLaa Member Posts: 115 Courageous

    Robs said:

    @SethLaa
    Your are correct in saying l will NOT be asking for anymore EXPERT advice from Scope. How can you call me obnoxious you don't  even know me or my disabilities.

    For your  convenience  l am a qualified human rights lawyer, l therefore know a little more about human rights, disabilities duty of care etc. than the likes of pompous  fool's like you.


    HA-HA-HAA
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Good morning Matilda...keep your chin up ! As Rob said youre in with a good chance at a tribunal...
    Good Luck! 
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Thank you, @jeana1!  Good luck with your application - hope your MP can sort it out for you soon.
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hello again...hope youre all ok! Thought id put an update on here...
    Well as i said last week or so I was waiting for a letter re my assessment...Well still not had anything...I emailed my MP last week..Nothing back as yet! Il phone his office tmrw...
    Anyway hope youve all been sorted to some extent by now? Good Luck ...J 
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hello again...just an update ...Ive got my assessment date at home on the Mon 15th May!! At last! Any tips etc would be very helpful..
    Thanks ...
  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,316 Pioneering
    Now now children please stop having a go at each other, that won't solve anything. The written word can so often be misunderstood. I have noticed however, and this is nothing personal, that sometimes the advisors don't read the posts properly therefore the advice is sometimes inaccurate as it is then not based on the facts. I pointed this out to one of them on another discussion but by that time they'd gone offline for a few days which is not ideal when trying to help someone. Also the advice is based on the system as it should work and doesn't take account of what would be best to do for that particular person to feel better. So there is a place for any advice to be given in good faith as the person recieving it has free will whether to act on it or not.  A lot of the advice is very good. I hope this can be read as constructive criticism by Scope and that other's reading the posts can be considered by the rest of us when choosing what you write on a public forum. 
    @jeana1 I have put some things you might want to look at on the "How to Prepare for your Assessment" about home assessments.  
         
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi All...I have my assessment at home next Monday...at last! Im just wanting it overwith...Im told i can keep my car till a decision is made..Wish me Luck !! xx
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @jeana1

    Very best of luck with your assessment on Monday!
  • Sam_ScopeSam_Scope Member Posts: 7,732 Disability Gamechanger
    Good luck @jeana1

    Scope
    Senior online community officer
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Thanks for your kind words..
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Let us know how you get on.
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Will do...Im starting to feel very anxious...just want it overwith now!
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Just keep calm.  Don't let them intimidate you or trip you up with trick questions.

    Have you read the thread:  'How to prepare for a PIP assessment'?
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi All...well had my assessment at home this morning! Lovely lady too..very kind & patient...was with me over an hour..she said i should hear from Atos soon...she even made me cuppa! Here goes....will let u know outcome...Cheers x

  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,316 Pioneering
    edited May 2017
    @jeana1 That must be a big relief. However you shouldn't be hearing from ATOS. The next thing you need to do is ring the PIP number at DWP within the next few days to ask them to send you a copy of the assessor's report. That will give you a good idea what your award will be as the Decision Maker's mostly just copy what the assessor has recommended. Hope it goes well for you..x
     
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Pleased that assessment went well, @jeana1.
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi yes your right wildlife...oops !!she said il hear from pip...but said shes from Atos....she was lovely lady...
    I should hear in a few weeks...
    Fingers crossed all Good! 
    Thanks Matilda...hope youve been sorted by now? Wish all on here do well...x
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @jeana1

    Suggest you do as wildlife says and phone DWP (PIP line) and ask for copy of assessors' report which will give you an idea of what your award is likely to be.  

    I'm not quite sorted yet.  Got my tribunal hearing Wed of next week.  Not complacent by any means - but 65% of appeals do succeed...
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Wishing you Luck for next week Matilda...let us know how you get on..
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
  • sherry777sherry777 Member Posts: 3 Listener
    Hi I am new here.  I had my tribunal last Wednesday and on Friday received the result and I have been awarded higher level of care and higher level mobility.  I had been awarded just lower level of care and no mobility by DWP.  What a turnaround!  It was also stated that it would be inappropriate to be reassessed.  I am still worried DWP will fight this decision. Any thoughts would be welcome.  Is the Judge's decision final? 
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi Sherry..Well done on your news...Im no expert but I think the tribunals decision is final....to me that means DWP have been overuled by tribunal.×as theyve deemed it inappropriate to take it further.....Well done!!! 
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi i had my copy of my assessment today...at the end it says a lot of stuff...but confirmed i cant walk more than 20 metres! Etc  Will this now mean I can get new car? Id be totally isolated without it! Is this correct? My 1st pip claim so not used to thier jargon....thanks for any advice....
  • wildlifewildlife Member Posts: 1,316 Pioneering
    edited May 2017
    @jeana1 If the assessor recommended 12 points or more for mobility you're on your way to higher mobility which would mean you qualify for a Motability car. But that's not the final decision. You have to wait and see if the DWP decision maker agrees with the assessor but mostly they do so fingers crossed for you. It'll be a brown envelope from the DWP that will be the Decision. X
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @jeana1

    Is it just the Atos assessor's report that you have so far received - or have you also received the DWP case worker's award decision letter?
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi just a copy of assessors report..which is ok ...at the end she declared a lot of positive things...inc i can only walk up to 20 metres...didnt agree tho on sm things...but hoping the 20 metres will be ok to keep mobile..
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Hi only rec copy atos assessors report...shes put i can only walk 20 metres ...not even that sm days!! So hoping thats ok to keep me mobile at least...and also needs aids to cope in my bungalow....hope it will be ok...thanks
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    My son reckons if i cant even walk 20 metres then i shud get the high rate for mobility?
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes, but you have to wait for the DWP case worker's letter for confirmation.  The assessor's report isn't enough - though usually the DWP just rubber stamp what the assessor has said.
  • jeana1jeana1 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Thanks Matilda..
  • DanteDante Member Posts: 14 Listener
    Six weeks since my assessment report 3 weeks since letter to say they had all they needed starting to worry now is this normal i am coming off of a lifetime DLA award i am 65 years old 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Dante said:
    Six weeks since my assessment report 3 weeks since letter to say they had all they needed starting to worry now is this normal i am coming off of a lifetime DLA award i am 65 years old 
    Hi,

    Yes, it's normal. There's no timescales for any decision. The letter you received is just a standard letter they send everyone but decisions can still take 8 weeks, sometimes longer.

    Have you requested a copy of the assessment report from DWP? This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be because they mostly go with the report.
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  • DanteDante Member Posts: 14 Listener
    I have requested a copy they refused to send me it they said i had to wait to recieve the decision and then request it 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Dante said:
    I have requested a copy they refused to send me it they said i had to wait to recieve the decision and then request it 
    If you live in the UK they will definitely send the report out to you before the decision is made and you should ring again to speak to someone different.

    If you live in Northern Ireland then you will have to wait for a decision to made before they will send the report.
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  • DanteDante Member Posts: 14 Listener
  • DanteDante Member Posts: 14 Listener
    I heard today standard rate of both i guess its not for me to understand why they have dropped my care from enhanced to standard my gp did her very best i suffer from severe panic attacks and reactive depression ive been sectioned twice its not the money its the fact they think its improved when it never will are they qualified this assessment people i have decided not to fight the decision as i have no new evidence i suffered such abuse as a child that i have never been able to live an normal life i panic at anything now i feel worthless all over again can i keep my carer at standard rate its heartbreaking what  this government has done to disabled and vulnerable people 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing Team, Community Team Posts: 7,944 Scope community team
    Hello @Dante. I'm sorry to read your award has been lowered. Yes, you can continue to have someone claim Carer's Allowance for you while on the standard rate. 
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  • DanteDante Member Posts: 14 Listener
    @Adrian_Scope thank you they stopped my pension credit too is this correct do you know as soon as i went from enhanced to standard in daily living ? Thank you so much for your help 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @Dante it shouldn't have affected your pension credit at all. You'll need to ring pension credit first thing Monday morning.
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  • DanteDante Member Posts: 14 Listener
    @poppy123456 thank you it usually goes in alongside my state pension but it didn't go in at all 
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @Dante

    There are different types of pension credit.  I suggest you phone DWP and ask them about it.
  • DanteDante Member Posts: 14 Listener
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing Team, Community Team Posts: 7,944 Scope community team
    Hi @Dante, did you find out what the problem was with your pension credit?
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