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PIP help

Jakebake08Jakebake08 Member Posts: 2 Listener
edited November 2017 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi i have just joined i have got a man coming tomorrow to fill my pip forms in, I am nervous incase i have a panic attack while he is doing them as they are coming more, I have tumour in my lung, emphysema, diverticulitis, I have had spinal surgery at the top now the bottom as worn coursing my back hip and groin to be really painful. I can't walk far ando have to have someone with me I use a 4 wheeled trolley to hold on. My husband has to wash me and clean me up when I'm incontinent of graces it's really embarrassing.  I say I'm going to do a meal but I will start then I can't do it I get so tired. I crawl in the house in case i fall with going dizzy without warning. I am waiting for mental health to come. So i dont know if i will get any help or not x


  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    Hello jakebake and welcome

    Is this your first claim or a change from DLA ?
    Please don't worry, which ever organisation is coming to help you should be used to the uncertainty of claimants.
    Have you got any supporting medical evidence to go with your form ?
    The DWP almost never contact GP's or other specialists so be prepared to get your own evidence

    best of luck and please let us know how you get on

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Jakebake08Jakebake08 Member Posts: 2 Listener
    I have got my letters from hospital and my appointments 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    To would be very usefull if you can get a letter from your GP detailing very specifically the problems you have with the PIP descriptor activities

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • steve51steve51 Community champion Posts: 7,175 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Jakebake08

    Welcome to our online community/family/website.

    "Please Please Don't Worry"

    You will be fine belive me !!!!!!!!!

    Just go through things but on a "Bad Day"

    Worrying will only make things 100x worse.

    Please let me know if there is anything that I can help/support you with in preperation for Friday ???

    Good Luck !!!!!!!
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger

    I assume that the person coming to help you fill in forms is from a charity or welfare organisation (not the DWP or other government agency!)?  If so, they should be experienced in PIP and there to help you, not help the DWP.

    Tell the person concerned all the problems you have with daily living activities and with walking.

    Walking criteria:  

    unable to walk more than 20 meters aided = 12 points (enhanced rate PIP)

    unable to walk more than 50 meters aided = 10 points (standard)

    unable to walk more than 50 meters unaided = 8 points (standard)

    Your walking distance will be based on how far you can walk using a trolley if that is your usual aid.

    There have been members on here who have said that they didn't qualify for PIP mobility because, although they couldn't walk more than 50 meters without a trolley, they gave the impression that with a trolley they could walk more than 50 meters.

    So, if you can't walk more than 20 or 50 meters, as the case may be, using a trolley make this clear to the person completing your form.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,415 Disability Gamechanger

    First of all I need to correct the advice from Steve51. You should absolutely not describe things on your worst day. Almost everyone has impairments which vary from day to day. Describing that variation accurately matters and is also what can make a case for need to be assisted for example. To re-emphasise this point there have been two prosecutions I am aware of in the past three years for people who described their worst day and presented as though they were like that all the time.

    Secondly, DWP will almost always write to the GP. Your GP may not be the person you now deal and they won't always digest your latest hospital letters unless you are visiting them so it can be important to go see your GP and make sure they are fully up to speed with where you're up to. They will almost never write to specialists although the guidance on when they ought to is publicly available. Medical evidence can be helpful but only when it confirms something which is in dispute (like prognosis for example, which would be relevant to the length of the award) or fills a gap. As per DLA it remains the case that the best evidence re: your care/daily living and/or mobility needs comes from you and your claim pack.

    The quality of HCP assessments and decision making is currently exceptionally very poor so it's important to get ready to challenge your decision. Seek independent advice and representation if needed as soon as you can.

  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger

    Whereas with DLA the DWP would write to the claimant's GP, with PIP they do not.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,415 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm afraid that's not accurate. Any discrepancy or inconsistency within the claim pack and DWP will write to the GP. Indeed I have such a case on my desk right now.
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    I think such cases of discrepancy or inconsistency must be very blatant and quite rare.  There has been report after report on here from members that the DWP did not contact their GP.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,415 Disability Gamechanger

    Not really. The statistics on it are in the public domain. I think the actual figure is about 48% of cases nationally last time I looked. Have just spoken to five colleagues and off the top of the head they're all running more than one PIP case where GP evidence has been obtained by DWP. A quick check to past threads on Rightsnet paints a similar picture.

    Bigger issue, as I've said, is that of making sure the GP does have up to date information in order to comment accurately (for example a client who cannot go out ever is recorded by their GP as being capable of leaving home once a week). Also there is the concern that GPs are refusing medical evidence to claimants by either trying to charge for letters or claiming there's no need as DWP will definitely write to them. £10 usually buys your entire GP record so asking for something which may be out of date; not needed and more expensive is not really the way to go.

    A GP cannot usually comment on your mobility or daily living needs unless they live with you. They certainly can't comment on what you're like at night so I would always encourage people to ask why they're getting medical evidence. What does it add or resolve?

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