Appeal wait

ruby12

Hi, does anyone have any experience on how long it takes for an appeal to make a decision.....I've been waiting since October, I rang and they have my information I sent from my consultant etc but still no decision made.

look forward to hearing from anyone in a similar experience.
many thanks

shell

Naomi_Jane92

My appeal took roughly 6 weeks , hope this helps

Pippa_Alumni

Hi @ruby12, sorry to hear that you're still waiting on your decision.

Unfortunately the wait times seem to be really variable between locations and it can be difficult to predict when you might hear back: for some it takes around 5-8 weeks, but many of our members have reported waiting much longer. Our best advice would be to continue contacting the DWP and following it up. Really hope you hear back soon with the outcome you're hoping for!

ruby12

It's actually the mandatory reconsideration ( sorry appeal was wrong wording) they say it's being looked at but has been over 3 months now. Thanks for all your replies

Naomi_Jane92

Yes my mandatory took 6 weeks 

Naomi_Jane92

Would deffo follow that up , they do say it can take up to 12 tho 

ruby12

Hi, quick update, had the decision through the post today..... It's a no. Feel quite down about it tbh. Is it worth doing an appeal ? I don't think I could face another interview to be turned down again. I have Crohn's disease that's why I have applied for pip.

experience of an appeal would be gratefully excepted. Also can you appeal by paper? 

Thanks x

ataloss2018

Appeal by paper is what you do, we got the help of a local disability charity who were very helpful, there are other organisations who can assist including CAB.

    

Matilda

Disability Rights UK site has a good guide to PIP appeals.

ruby12

Thanks all for your info x

ruby12

Hi I’ve put my appeal in and received a letter from them saying that they have approached the dwp for their input on my letter of appeal.... why does this happen as I have written confirmation of what the dwp think about my application and that’s why I have gone to appeal? Seems like forever going backwards with this issue ☹️

CockneyRebel

Hi ruby

The tribunal ask DWP for their  case and evidence. You will receive a copy of everything used to make their decision. This is known as the bundle.
When you receive it you should check to make sure all your evidence is included.
You should then use this to make your own submission
There is lots of info on here about appeals so please have a read, then come back with any questions

CR

ruby12

Ahh right ok. I thought the form and reasons I filled out was the actual appeal

ruby12

Hi I have received my bundle with the reply from the dwp...... some interesting comments!! One actually said that during the hour interview I didn’t need a toilet break although I state in my appeal I go to the toilet frequently with crohns & side effects from bowel surgery. How rude is that!?! 

Rozann

I have waited since last August for my appeal. Last time I phoned I was told it'd be 7-8 weeks which means I should hear now to have it in 2 weeks.

Matilda

@ruby12

The medical profession define urination frequency as more than 8 times day, i.e more often than about every 3 hours including during the night.  Therefore the fact you didn't need a toilet break during a 1 hour interview of course does not indicate no problem with frequency.

The DWP will clutch at straws to give reasons why claimant should not be entitled to points!  

muldoon

I recently had a home assessment and the assessor completely ignored my main illness and he never referred to it in his report I have 8points for care and 10 points for mobility and he has also stated that in his opinion I have low level of pain and I take mild painkillers (tramadol) but I am on the maximum allowed
what can I do 

ruby12

Unbelievable really. The worrying thing is we are being assessed by people who have no knowledge of some of our conditions

Matilda

@muldoon - have you asked for a mandatory reconsideration (MR)?  Tramadol is not a mild painkiller; it is morphine, a controlled drug.

@ruby12 - absolutely, often no knowledge of any of our conditions, though of course PIP is about how our conditions affect us rather than the conditions themselves.  But often assessors tell lies about how our conditions affect us despite the evidence.

muldoon

What worries me is that in his report he has put time scales for recovery and his opinion how long my illness is going to last I am never going too get better I have a rare chronic illness that is only going too get worse and they have a letter from my Gp and the group that supports my condition 

susan48

@Matilda,
i agree as they say it’s about how our conditions affect us, how can they know if they don’t know about the conditions in the first place?
if that makes sense 

Matilda

@muldoon

The assessors are not qualified to estimate rates of deterioration.  They shouldn't be allowed to.
DWP treat them as medical experts when most haven't got a clue. Mine was a paramedic. 

muldoon

My daughter asked him how he thought he was speaking too and on several occasions said to him that he had asked that question several times and I had answered it I even had an angina attack but he omitted that and I cried on several occasions he was most definitely a bully

Norton2018

ruby12 said:

It's actually the mandatory reconsideration ( sorry appeal was wrong wording) they say it's being looked at but has been over 3 months now. Thanks for all your replies

Norton2018

Wow Ruby..... It took the PIP folk 3 working days to decide my fate.. UNBELIEVABLE.. I sent 29 pages from consultants to copies of Mri . X rays etc.. 3 days... And the decision makers arnt like qualified I.e...staff CPN Nurse or retired GP... Nope.. Just office workers having life changing impacts with no knowledge of the Chronic Illnesses that I personally have...
Took my friend 8 weeks to get a great 12 points.. As she can walk for miles..!! Mines going to a tribunal.. As I would have to move and car less.. Housebound.. Very horrendous time for folk... They REALLY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE at PIP..... 

CockneyRebel

All the medical evidence in the world will not win a PIP award in most cases and often it will remain unread until tribunal.

The PIP assessment is not a medical, it is a functionallity assessment to see about how you are affected and if you need aids or assistance in daily activities or mobility. Medical evidence is only useful to provide the "why" you need help

CR
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ruby12

Well I've written my response to the response from the DWP to my appeal so fingers crossed it will go in my favour.