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  • JennysDadJennysDad Member Posts: 2,308 Pioneering
    Hello Cora @Cora and welcome to the community. It is good to have you with us.
    The community is a safe and friendly place and I am sure you will hear from people who have some ideas on this one, though just at the moment I have not much to offer myself :smile:
    Can I ask if it is only the extra digits that make it difficult to keep these gloves on, or if there is something else that contributes to the problem? Just to help me think it through.
    Others will be along to talk to you, I have no doubt, and I hope we'll find ways to help you.
    Warmest best wishes for now,
    Richard
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  • JennysDadJennysDad Member Posts: 2,308 Pioneering
    Hi @Cora, and thank you for getting back to me. I appreciate it. I found this discussion on an American nursing website, but you may have tried all the options suggested. 
    I'm wondering if there might be a way for you to get one of your gloves to me, with the superfluous parts marked in indelible pen? I'd need to have the details of the glove and supplier/retailer so that I could obtain some to experiment with.
    Asking @PippaScope if it would be possible, say, for head office to post this item on to me if it were sent there, or if you have other ideas?
    I'm wondering if some kind of velcro-fastening wrist band might help with the loose wrist fit issue? Have you tried anything like that? Again, it's for information, not to pry. But if I could get a supply and some indication on where the gloves need amending I'll be happy to experiment.
    Let's see where this goes :smile:
    Warmest best wishes to you,
    Richard 
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  • JennysDadJennysDad Member Posts: 2,308 Pioneering
    Hi Cora @Cora,
    Many thanks for your response. We need somehow to obtain a more direct communication so that I can see two or three of the pairs 'marked up' to identify the bits that are superfluous. I would then look at ways of cutting them down and resealing them where they were cut.
    The velcro thought comes from a variety of things, including the cuffs on one of my jackets. So I'm thinking of quite a broad band, probably made of a sturdy vinyl type material, that would wrap around the wrist part of the glove.
    I'm retired and my time is my own (other than that which I devote to Scope), so it's not impossible that if I could find a viable process I could do them in batches for you.
    By all means let me know if all of this/any of this makes any sense :smile:
    Very best to you,
    Richard
  • Jean_OTJean_OT Member Posts: 528 Pioneering

    Hi @Cora

    Thank you for posting this interesting question.

    I'll be totally honest, this isn't an issue that I've been asked to address before so I'm starting right at the beginning of thinking through potential solutions, I suspect that you will already have tried everything I can think of but here goes:

    1) some people who wear disposable gloves wear cotton liners underneath to reduce the contact between their skin and the material the glove is made from. The liner also offers better traction for the disposable glove. Would it be feasible to have some cotton liners custom made or adapted?

    2) You mentioned trying to customise gloves yourself using a heat sealer. Are polythene gloves an option? As far as I am aware heat sealers work fairly well on polythene.

    3) would long gauntlet style gloves  stay on better? See example at:  https://www.gloveclub.co.uk/long-length-gloves.html Perhaps combined with using sleeve garters. 

    4) My thought is that ideally if there was the possibility of collaboration between people with the right skills this issue shouldn't be insurmountable. I imagine that you would need an orthotics person to take casts of your hands that could be given to a disposable glove manufacturer to custom make some gloves. There are certainly orthotics staff within the NHS and in private settings, capable of casting, or using technology to 3D scan your hands to print 3D models of them. The next challenge is to find a glove manufacture interested in the project. Most companies seem to be overseas but I did find a UK based one: https://unigloves.co.uk/  Of course this all sounds expensive, personally I think the NHS should be funding as your ability to use your hands is essential to you being able to independently manage activities of daily living, however, we all know how strapped the NHS is for funds. So I wonder what the possibilities are for companies working to find a solution on a not-for-profit basis or obtaining funding via charitable grants or crowd funding? Having the involvement of  recognised charitable organisation which specialises in custom solutions might help to pull things together:  http://www.remap.org.uk/

    I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on my ideas and if you manage to find a solution. 

    Best Wishes

    Jean 

    Jean Merrilees BSc MRCOT

    You can read more of my posts at: https://community.scope.org.uk/categories/ask-an-occupational-therapist

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  • Jean_OTJean_OT Member Posts: 528 Pioneering

    Hi @Cora

    So when I mentioned cotton glove liners I had in mind something similar to this:

    http://www.safetygloves.co.uk/supertouch-stockinet-liner-polycotton-2500252w4.html

    Either completely custom sawn for your needs for using an off-the-peg liner glove as a starting point and having someone skilled in needlework cut and adapt as needed.

    Best Wishes

    Jean

    Jean Merrilees BSc MRCOT

    You can read more of my posts at: https://community.scope.org.uk/categories/ask-an-occupational-therapist

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  • Jean_OTJean_OT Member Posts: 528 Pioneering
    Hi @Cora

    Thanks for the update. Sorry to read that you are still struggling with this issue, although it does sound as if things are slowly moving towards some sort of workable solution.  

    I'm wondering if this is something the  maybe the folks at DEMAND: https://www.demand.org.uk/ or REMAP: https://www.remap.org.uk/ could help with as I think it is pretty clear that you have already tried all the potential solutions that might be readily commercially available.

    Best Wishes
    Jean

    Jean Merrilees BSc MRCOT

    You can read more of my posts at: https://community.scope.org.uk/categories/ask-an-occupational-therapist

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  • Jean_OTJean_OT Member Posts: 528 Pioneering
    Hi @Cora

    For most folks our hands are so important to being able to do the things that really give our life value and meaning. I hate to think of you blistering your hands struggling to do domestic tasks,  potentially leaving your hands too damaged to tackle activities that would bring more joy to your life.........unless of course you really enjoy chopping veg and doing the washing up!

    Would it be possible to get a dishwasher machine to do the washing up? Could you buy frozen pre-chopped veg? I appreciate that you are in the Western Isles so maybe your location, access to utilities, etc mean that these suggestions wouldn't be possible for you. If so, as an alternative, is it feasible to get some domestic help to do some of these jobs for you? As part of a local authority funded care plan perhaps? Thus, hopefully helping to preserve your skin integrity, lessen the risk of infection etc 

    Sorry I don't know enough about your living situation to know if there is any mileage in my suggestions or not.

    Best Wishes

    Jean   

    Jean Merrilees BSc MRCOT

    You can read more of my posts at: https://community.scope.org.uk/categories/ask-an-occupational-therapist

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  • GeoarkGeoark Member, Scope Volunteer Posts: 1,373 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @Cora sorry I don't have much to offer, and suspect that what I am going to suggest is something you may have already looked into.

    While you are looking to find a glove solution would a wet guard barrier cream be of help when trying ideas so if water gets in it reduces/stops the damage done? For example: https://www.rozalex.co.uk/collections/barrier-creams/products/wet-guard-barrier-cream

    I appreciate that the ingredients that make up the product might not make it suitable for you, and these are not listed, but they can be contacted. This is one I have found, I am sure there are more on the market.



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  • newbornnewborn Member Posts: 683 Pioneering
    Can you get any online delivery out there?  And/or, can you fix with the Tesco people or some other regular traveller, to get a personal agreement to have a  private hygienically  sealed box now and then?

    I'm reasoning that not just you, but an increasing number, are avoiding this and that.  Michael Mosley et al investigated gut health and the immune system.  Milk and more deliver, in London,  organic yoghurt and milk in reusable glass, which suits those avoiding plastic on food.  Then there are various organic food deliveries. 

    Soon, someone will wake up and see that dried potato has a customer base who may well like organic, plastic free, to dodge allergens and food sensitivity, and to dodge difficult food preparation.    And, those same potential customers will value any other organic dried food.   Light to transport, long lasting and not needing fridges.  What's not to love?   

    A bonus for suppliers is dried mash could include all root veg, including casava,  yam, turnip parsnip swede.    Dried peas and a variety of other green veg would be great cupboard standby products for anyone.    A N D they would mop up the waste of seasonal gluts, making everything worth growing, without risk.   

    Dry kale and seaweed both seem to be considered a delicacy in place of crisps.

    (An extra bonus is that there is no problem with differently sized, or wonky veg, being rejected)    There was a war product called dried egg. It wasn't liked, but it would be worth trying, esp for organic egg.     

    There is a product called microgreens, similar to mustard and cress, just closely packed newly sprouted seeds of leaf veg.  It's  in supermarkets, all too rarely, needs no cooking, but is meant to be extremely nourishing.

    Other posters have said what I thought, about not wasting your struggles on making your hands stand up to water filled with harsh cleaning products.    Maybe if you try at all costs to save them for the leather cutting, it would pay for a cleaner/cook, a couple of times a week?  (As long as he/she doesn't fill the air with  sprays or scented products or chemicals, of course)

      By the way, is there anything in the leather itself, eg lanolin, to set off your sensitivity? If so, can it be dodged? Working in gloves would be cumbersome, presumably?
  • topshoestopshoes Member Posts: 442 Pioneering
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    Hi @Cora right i think you are looking at a dressmaker , you will be surprised what they can do and to get the right fabric you need , you ask why i said that well i used to be one over the years  , if you look online and see who does dressmaking    x
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  • waqasali201waqasali201 Member Posts: 1 Listener

    Hi @Cora

    So when I mentioned Canadian Rigger Gloves I had in mind something similar to this:

    having someone skilled in needlework cut and adapt as needed.




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