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How Disabled people are all going to lose out when we switch to Universal Credit
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Hi I've just been checking the government website, which shows you how
much you get now, and how much you will get when universal credit
starts. The difference for me will be £410.66 per month. I will get a
transitional payment each month for this. When the universal credit goes
up the following year say for example it rises by £20 per month, this
amount will be taken off my transitional payment. What has started to
worry me is that basically everyones money will be frozen for over 15
years.
This means each year your rent goes up, you have to pay the difference. each year the council tax goes up you will have to pay the difference. Your PIP will rise, it is separate, but it will in no way cover the constant rises we will all be facing. Basically the care component worth £95 per week has been taken away. I am worried that i will struggle to pay my rent, and be made homeless.
Here is a link to the government calculator I used. it shows you what you get now, and what you will get on universal credit.
https://www.betteroffcalculator.co.uk/#/calculator/new/step1
The government are slipping this in, and people dont realise how worse off they are going to be. We can't get a pay rise until the £410.66 has been absorbed by the universal credit. We really need to do something about this, before we are even more stressed than we already are.
This means each year your rent goes up, you have to pay the difference. each year the council tax goes up you will have to pay the difference. Your PIP will rise, it is separate, but it will in no way cover the constant rises we will all be facing. Basically the care component worth £95 per week has been taken away. I am worried that i will struggle to pay my rent, and be made homeless.
Here is a link to the government calculator I used. it shows you what you get now, and what you will get on universal credit.
https://www.betteroffcalculator.co.uk/#/calculator/new/step1
The government are slipping this in, and people dont realise how worse off they are going to be. We can't get a pay rise until the £410.66 has been absorbed by the universal credit. We really need to do something about this, before we are even more stressed than we already are.
Replies
As UC is made up of different components, it may be that the transitional payments will only be affected by a rise in the standard allowance with the other elements like HB and CT still receiving any annua lincrease
CR
It's going to depend on whether your area is live, full service and if you naturally migrate or not.
The transitional payments from what I could gather in effect freezes that persons benefit. They have too much money and would need to wait for non transitional payment people increases to catch up?
You don't get UC plus your sdp, sdp gets changed to "transitional" each April one side goes up and the transitional down. Sneaky way of taking your money!!
There is a thread somewhere where a benefits advisor worked out the maths.
I have to say I don't care anymore, I have gone to the bank and there is £140 less in it because of moving from DLA to PIP.
I couldn't care less about next year I am trying to sort the here and now.
I ) The final legislation is unknown re transitional protection
2) It is thought that only the increases in the LCWRA element would be affected
So as nothing has been decided by our wonderful government anything else is speculation and scarmongering
CR
This tells people that IR ESA is being replaced with UC. So the sdp add on is gone, because the benefit is.
However if you work out the sums for yourself assuming you get the standard benefit plus the limited capacity for work.
It's more than the current ESA IR amount.
https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit
Fact, if you make a new claim under UC you won't get the disability premiums.
You may still be entiled to other IR element payable under UC
Fact, If you are currently in receipt of the premiums and have a change of circumstance in a full service UC area, you will lose the premiums as things stand. Other IR elements
- Child Tax Credit
- Housing Benefit
- Income Support
- income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA)
- income-related Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
- Working Tax Credit
Will be replaced by UC.This is termed natural migration.Fact, Sometime in the future everyone with an IR element will have their IR element moved to UC. This includes the premiums, HB etc. The premiums will be subject to transitional protection which means that at the time of the change you will be no worse off. Your CB element remains outside of UC. This in managed migration.
Fact, The legislation covering how the transitional potection will work has not been completed, so nobody knows what will or will not be affected
Telling people that their housing benefit will be frozen and they will be made homeless is scaremongering
Yes, it is much better to be informed, but be informed with the facts
CR