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Pip claim

SomayehSomayeh Member Posts: 2 Listener
hi every one I’m Somayeh it’s lovely I found this site and get to know you all. I need help please, 3 years ago I been diagnosed arthritis and pip refused me because because point weren’t enough. I’ve been diagnosed fibromyalgia and my situation worst since 3 years ago. Today I’ve send form “how disability effect you” filled by some one from welfare right. I didn’t lie in the form explained all difficulties but for walking I can walk with pain about 20 meters and I drive all the time even round the corner to school. But I don’t use stick so I scared they refuse me . I need help genuine and I hope they award me. Is there any thing that I should be ready to say or do in my medical assessment? If any support via this I appreciated. Thanks a lot Somayeh 

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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi Somayeh and welcome

    hings to know about PIP

    Get face to face advice from CAB, welfare rights or similar whenever possible

    DLA and PIP use different criteria for awards

    Just because you had DLA indefinately does not guarantee you will qualify for PIP

    When making the initial phone call ask for your DLA to be taken into consideration if applicable

    When you receive your PIP2 form you can ask for an extension of two weeks to complete and return it if need be.

    It is important to understand the points system, descriptors and criteria for an award Have a look at the B&W self test

    http://www.mybenefitsandwork.co.uk/pip/indexxx.php

    PIP is about how your condition affect your functionality. The "HOW"
    Medical evidence is only usefull to explain the "WHY. On its own, medical evidence will not win you an award
    Only send relevant medical evidence. More is not always better. HCP's and DM's will not spend time combing through your edition of War and Peace to find the facts.

    Most claimants will be required to attend a f2f assessment, usually at a centre.

    If you are unable to attend a centre and need a home visit, you will normally require a GP's letter stating explicitly that you cannot attend a centre and why. There must be no ambiguity.

    When you receive an appointment date you can rearrange it once only, you must then attend the new appointment

    Failure to attend will result in your file being returned to the DWP and your claim maybe closed.

    When you do attend the assessment you may take a companion for support.

    Make no special effort, be yourself

    Take your medication as prescribed

    Most people with long term conditions have learned to manage and conceal their condition. On the day you must become "disabled" for the assessor to see the real you, otherwise an incorrect assessment is likely.
    I am in no way suggesting that anyone should put on an act and pretend to be worse than they are, many people are already stressed, but at the same time it will not help if the claimant " Puts on a brave face" as my gran used to say

    If you have a home visit, the assessor is just the same as any visitor , they do not have the right to look around your home.

    If possible have a companion with you

    Keep to your normal routine. If at the appointed time you are normaly still in bed or not dressed, then, if you are comfortable, there is no reason to alter that.

    You decide which room the assessment takes place in
    Assessors may arrive early or late so be ready. Have your ID and medication list to hand.

    The assessor will be observing everything you do from the start, how you sit, stand, walk, handle items such as bags and coats.

    Don't expect them to answer many questions, they have an agenda and will want to stick to it.

    If you have a companion they can take notes.

    After the assessment you should ring the DWP and ask for a copy of the report, but wait for 3-4 days for them to receive it. Do not be fobbed off, you are entitled to it no matter what the phone jockey tells you.

    When you receive the report it will give you an indication of your possible award it is a recommendation only, it is the DM that makes the decision and it may differ.

    When you receive the decision letter, you have a month from the date on the letter to ask for a mandatory reconsideration, no extension is normally given. You can do so by phone and or letter.

    If you have received an award the decision letter will tell you what it is, how much and from when.
    If it is a new claim it will be dated from the day of the first phone call. If a change from DLA then it should be dated the day after your DLA stops. If it is a review then it should be a continuation with any back date if a higher award is given

    Look for both the end date and the "We will contact you after " date. Reviews are usually carried out a year before the end date. Some shorter awards have an end date and you will have to reapply.

    Some useful links

    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ment-providers
     
    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/be...nd-carers/pip/

    https://www.rethink.org/resources/p


    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • SomayehSomayeh Member Posts: 2 Listener
    Hi and thx for reply. I think miss undrestanding. I never had dla in my life never. 3 years ago for first time I applied pip they refused me and my situation worst that’s why I’m re-applying back again. I’ve read all your info. Thanks a lot. Do my best but is very stress full and scary xx
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    Just use the bits relevant, just an overview of the PIP procedure

    When you attend f2f be yourself, dress to be comfortable not to impress

    It is a test of functionality not a medical

    The HCP is only really interested in how you do things

    We all have coping mechanisms, but you need to drop these for an acurate assessment, but don't put on an act

    Sometimes the ask you the the car question it is brilliant because it indicates grip; mobility; dexterity; the ability to do something repeatedly; concentration and stamina. Instead of thinking negatively about such stuff think about what they’re getting at and your answers will be much better and more detailed. Similar questions include whether you’ve been on holiday recently. It feeds into mobility (getting across an airport); stamina; the ability to cope alone; the need for aids and appliances.

    Mobility
    You are not required to walk pain free but any pain that restricts the distance that you can walk should be taken into account.

    Specifically for the Moving Around activity, if you are able to walk but you are in severe pain when doing so, then you can argue that your walking is not to a necessary standard and should be disregarded.

    The legal test requires you to stand and then move (walk), so if you have problems getting up then you should document these as well.

    If you walk slowly then it must take you at least twice the time to cover the 20m as a healthy person would, this could be down to the speed of your walking but could also be the result of having to stop.

    You must be able to repeat the distance, so if you could walk it once but not then be able to walk it again within a reasonable timescale then you should be classed as unable to repeat the activity.


    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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