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philipb
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Went to the tribunal this morning. What an horrible experience cross examination. Wouldn't let my partner and carer speak. I do not want to ever go through the experience again. Stick your PIP where the sun don't shine. I have schizophrenia and multiple disabilities feel so downhearted
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@philipb,
i know now exactly how you are feeling, I’m still trying to get over my tribunal which was heard at the end of February.
i would rather have to sell my flat, be homeless than ever go through that ordeal again.
did you get there decision today?0 -
Hi @philipb, and welcome to the community.
Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear this. Would you like to tell us some more about it?0 -
PIP tribunal hearings are supposed to be inquisitorial. Mine was but luckily I had been forewarned by reading the Disability Rights Handbook so knew what to expect and therefore I didn't get upset. My appeal was allowed.
I advise people to find out as much as they can beforehand about what to expect at appeal hearings so that the proceedings don't come as a shock on the day.1 -
Hello there
Which edition of Disability Rights Handbook
did you buy, 2016-2017 or, 2017-1018?
I'm looking on Amazon and the prices differ with each one.
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2017-18. Handbook is updated each year so out of date one would be cheaper. 2018-19 edition will be published in May. You can buy Handbook from Disabilty Rights UK site.0
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Oh no!! Can i ask how long you waited for your apoeal? My husband has been waiting over twelve months now..i couldnt bare a horrible experience on top or the anxious wait we all have..its just not fair
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I waited Jan 2071. Asked the judge for an urgent hearing it took two weeks to get a hearing after such a long wait1
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I was fortunate, I got my hearing within 3 months1
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It seems like the only thing one can do is wait n hope n pray1
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Prepare as best you can for the hearing. Find out what the procedure is.0
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@lillybelle,
yes I won my appeal, hopefully you get good news soon1 -
Got standard rate awarded had that already. Got low mobility better than I expected1
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Hi all
Good to hear from the people who are going through what I am, and its positive to hear that even though the hearing is horrible that we are seeing some results. I am going to get the Disability Rights Handbook from Amazon this weekend to prepare myself, not that I haven't done that already, but every little helps. Still anxious, still nervous and unsure if I am doing the right thing. For all the Fibro., sufferers I empathize, today is not a good day, if they could see me now I look and feel awful.....I'd get my benefit back.....
Keep positive everyone, and thanks for the support it's very much appreciated.
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So the cooking question - I was led to believe that one should talk about getting tired and dizzy with cooking , needing assistance , not carrying heavy pans , dangers of cutting oneself while on warfarin but no- the tribunal woman said sharply :-‘ it’s not about whether you can make a nice meal , the test is whether you can chop a potato and a carrot - well can you ?!’
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I had a particularly awful judge 3 times for 3 tribunal hearings. During one, after I stated that without a vehicle I was completely housebound, she stated that it wasn't her place to give me a free car. That, in itself, proved she has no idea how disability affects people or how benefits actually work. All tribunals failed btw and I had to appeal to the UT and then go before a different tribunal group to get a fair award.
Tribunals are supposed to be inquisitorial, there is no other way to weed out false claims. The very fact that it affects a person badly is a good sign they deserve the help. That sounds bad I know but is important to understand. Most of our life we are under pressures of one sort or another and disability affects our abilities to deal with such pressure. I guess that a lack of ability to cope is one thing they look for.
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Expected inquisitorial but I was just surprised re the cooking question as I thought I needed to include what I said above . ( especially as I was previously awarded 4 points for cooking and nothing has changed ( which my cardiologist wrote in his report )0
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Topkitten said:I had a particularly awful judge 3 times for 3 tribunal hearings. During one, after I stated that without a vehicle I was completely housebound, she stated that it wasn't her place to give me a free car. That, in itself, proved she has no idea how disability affects people or how benefits actually work. All tribunals failed btw and I had to appeal to the UT and then go before a different tribunal group to get a fair award.
Tribunals are supposed to be inquisitorial, there is no other way to weed out false claims. The very fact that it affects a person badly is a good sign they deserve the help. That sounds bad I know but is important to understand. Most of our life we are under pressures of one sort or another and disability affects our abilities to deal with such pressure. I guess that a lack of ability to cope is one thing they look for.
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missm said:Topkitten said:I had a particularly awful judge 3 times for 3 tribunal hearings. During one, after I stated that without a vehicle I was completely housebound, she stated that it wasn't her place to give me a free car. That, in itself, proved she has no idea how disability affects people or how benefits actually work. All tribunals failed btw and I had to appeal to the UT and then go before a different tribunal group to get a fair award.
Tribunals are supposed to be inquisitorial, there is no other way to weed out false claims. The very fact that it affects a person badly is a good sign they deserve the help. That sounds bad I know but is important to understand. Most of our life we are under pressures of one sort or another and disability affects our abilities to deal with such pressure. I guess that a lack of ability to cope is one thing they look for.
TK
If it was easy then everyone would be on disability.
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Yes , point taken . When I left , I could just imagine them saying ‘how many times did she mention her bloody bad shoulder and how it affected her daily life !’0
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